Apologies for the delay in the reply, it's been a bit of a long day. I'm also pulling in the FBX mailing list on this so they can weigh in and correct my many mistakes. I don't think I'll say this well, because I'm too close to Santiago to present an unbiased opinion.
On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 01:11:36 -0600, Charles N Wyble wrote: > So there are some existing systems that seem pretty close to what the > FreedomNode/Box is supposed to do. > > ...http://www.thepiratebox.net/ > ...http://wiki.hacdc.org/index.php/Byzantium I'll speak only to what I know, and I don't know the box or Byzantium. The Pirate Box could be a self-built DreamPlug alternative, but that's less attractive for the mass-marketable goal of the FBX. Both appear to be projects worth learning from, though. I'll leave it up to others to defend building the FBX on Debian, but they have an good track record for defending and promoting the fundamental freedoms of software. > http://retroshare.sourceforge.net/ We actually discussed RS during the hackfest a bit. It does many things interestingly, but doesn't seem to offer the performance or connectivity the FBX is looking for. I also don't know how strenuously the code's been audited. It seems that RS was written with different constraints in mind. It tends to do too much in a few different ways: RS verifies the signature on every single piece of data. This could well swamp a DreamPlug. Also, RS makes so many connections at any one time that household routers get overwhelmed. I'd test its performance on my DreamPlug, but it has no web interface (yet; it's in progress). > Doesn't retroshare already do what santaigo plans to do? Not sure if we > should be writing new software. RS offers more than a connectivity layer, while Santiago is designed to be a discovery layer with interchangeable protocol and routing layers. My dream would be to see Santiago transmit over Briar. We gain an incredible amount of flexibility by splitting discovery and routing while RS integrates, locking us into their implementation of each service. Long story short, it's operating at a different layer. Santiago offers discovery for any service while RS offers a complete package for their set of services. > I'm a systems/integration engineer. I try to avoid writing new > software when possible. Plenty of existing solutions that can be > integrated to bring something to end users quickly. I think Santiago might have different discovery concerns than almost anything out there, aside from Phantom. Unfortunately, Phantom has a generally unusable license (as discussed on the FBX mailing list a year ago) and might handle more than just discovery. I do mean to review the Phantom's research paper, though, it's quite well thought out from what I remember. You might enjoy Santiago's readme, though. Nick
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