On 12/03/12 21:56, Sean O'Brien wrote:

The top bar isn't "too" busy in my opinion, but unnecessarily busy.
The icons are rather small and they don't really help identifying the
meaning of the content that they present.
I probably would omit them and make use of the extra space that gets
available; maybe size up the font!
Same is true for the secondary menu.
I agree that we need to find better ways to display the main categories
and make them the focus of the design.  I do, however, think the toolbar
is the right size.

You probably misunderstood me - I meant to scale up the font only, not the whole bar.

  So, the wise thing to do would be moving the main
categories elsewhere. and changing the structure of the page around.

I do like the little icons...at least in the side menu  I think the open
eye next to privacy is probably the best example of something that fits
perfectly.  I'd rather change these icons where necessary than remove
them completely.

I'm not completely against icons, they certainly are decorative, appealing and sometimes really useful! The problem is that if just some work sufficiently - you have to question using them on every menu item. So I agree that we might work on creating a complete set, but as long as there are mainly vague icons that come from a standard iconset with questionable semantic meaning we should better not use them at all.

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