No, I don't believe I naively believe that vPro and other such technologies are only being used as has been disclosed. That's why I was so scared about the technology when I read about it. I would argue that it would be an absolute impossibility (due to the ease with which one moves from A to B) that it was not moved beyond A (public disclosure of IT abilities) and into B (hidden stuff that governments / military can use).
No, I believe categorically that vPro is the most scary technology ever put into a general purpose computing device. And if AMD has something similar, I'll be switching to VIA CPUs only, instead of a mixture of VIA and AMD CPUs in my machines. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin --- On Thu, 6/28/12, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: [Freedombox-discuss] Government use but no government conspiracy > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, June 28, 2012, 3:45 PM > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Rick Hodgins wrote: "You're reaching to go from the > existence of > debug regs and UUIDs to a government conspiracy. > Evidence is > required." > > I did not write that the government forced Intel and AMD to > install > a backdoor by installing Intel AMT, Intel vPRO and AMD DASH. > I did > write that they would be accessibly by IT administrators, > government, hackers, etc. > > Likewise, the government did not force Dell and Lenova to > install > Intel vPro and Computrace in their BIOS. I did write that > they > could be activated by government, hackers, investigators, > etc. to > remotely track the geolocation of computers as well as > remotely > procure photographs and data via keyloggers. > > Antimalware programs do not scan BIOS nor processors. They > do not > report AMT, DASH, vPRO and Computrace activity. > > Do you naively believe that Intel's AMT and AMD's DASH are > solely > used by IT administrators? Do you believe that vPRO and > Computrace > are solely used for anti-theft? Majority of users never > access > their BIOS. They do not know whether their BIOS has vPRO or > Computrace. Neither owners manuals, manufacturers' websites > nor > stores advertise Computrace and attempt to sell an annual > subscription to Computrace. vPRO and Computrace are > backdoors. > > ARM does not have the equivalent of vPRO or Computrace. At > least > not yet. Thus, I am not asking you to ask Marvell if there > is "anti- > theft." I am asking you to ask Marvel whether: (1) out > of band > monitoring; (2) visible PSN; (3) ARM TrustZone which is > equivalent > to TPM and; (4) debugger. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Charset: UTF8 > Version: Hush 3.0 > Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify > > wsBcBAEBAgAGBQJP7LRwAAoJEMry4TZLOfxmZokH/1T7pkTObQSDCDizr8vWHS2wlasd > V6UwSIRjVY+dcO+sMkD9w9apK4c98VVLEBjv56VyNYnPMKvxyjAiVKJR9FcsPW+dwJOm > e+h0syTdsFPO8lRH1EpWESlx1pf/e68fzWqJbBK9o0gmIzIjmSR9yAge2iX4IDmx0vjl > OqYbUcOm+hMOMzRtg9mvND6j4IgO7hFjpWTtSoAoK4NYKnXifRC/F5YgUcGOeou0ei4I > SoqR5AD0e8FDWUE9I6KNeS/3cDJKUCE60Chbth3EVV5hY4a8L5PvM5eE9UPimcBc+Dx4 > IaHH5nASLeKPuMmOq5bKRKloHuWc6xIuZ1Jx4v8sBoo= > =ruuF > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > _______________________________________________ > Freedombox-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss > _______________________________________________ Freedombox-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss
