Quoting Graham Burnside (2013-01-05 17:29:51) > I would have thought that the firewall penetration will be a non > issue, the boxes will presumably be connecting via a IPsec VPN (Strong > Swan)? In tunnelling mode this would allow NAT traversal. Finding your > friend's box (node) is the problem, for which we must rely on some > form of dynamic dns.
Take xmpp as example: If you and I have Freedomboxes and want to communicate via xmpp, then we either need to use some external xmpp server or be able to reach the self-hosted xmpp of the other box. Using an external xmpp server defeat an essential point of the FreedomBox, in that it does not keep logs of activities local. Using self-hosted xmpp servers we need them to be reachable. Similar for IPsec: One end of an IPsec tunnel needs to be reachable. If both our Freedomboxes are placed behind masqueraing firewalls, then to what IP would you establish your tunnel? > As for unique tools, FreedomBuddy certainly the glue binding together > common tools, but no more so than implementing a custom xmpp client > with say python-jabberbot (in debian repo). FreedomBuddy and any other new xmpp client needs to be in Debian, before they can sensibly be considered for FreedomBox: It would be insane to ship to FreedomBox users any code that is not treated as "stable" by Debian. If you consider writing some custom xmpp client on top of python-jabberbot, then that would be great! There is certainly a lack of good user-friendly non-desktop-oriented (read: web-based or in other ways run without screen attached) xmpp clients! If you are not, then I find it more harm than good to discuss here theoretical possibilities of what code can do when someone do it. I suspect that a lot of confusion around FreedomBox stem from such theoretical discussions. FreedomBox is about boxing already existing, stable code - not about inventing new code. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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