Hi all, A post seen on the userops list. I'm not sure it's entirely relevant to FreedomBox, with Plinth, but the shak tool presented in the talk looks interesting.
----- Forwarded message from Christopher Allan Webber <[email protected]> ----- Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:31:52 -0500 From: Christopher Allan Webber <[email protected]> To: Userops <[email protected]> Subject: [Userops] Antonio Terceiro's DebConf talk on packaging free software web applications Hello all, If you haven't watched it, I highly recommend watching: http://gemmei.acc.umu.se/pub/debian-meetings/2015/debconf15/Packaging_the_free_software_web_for_the_end_user.webm There are some interesting parts of this talk: - First of all, most of the concerns I have had about deploying on existing distributions have been reflected in this talk! (Oh okay, it turns out that's no coincidence, Deb and I's FOSDEM talk was mentioned in here. But I think regardless, we're hitting peak zeitgeist on what the problem domain is...) - Several components were identified as not being totally covered by existing packaging solutions, including deploying multiple instances of applications and handling shared configuration variables. - In the talk, the idea of an "application" as a layer above "packages" is proposed... right on! - There's an application being hacked on called shak that has both a command line and a web user interface. Cool! - Under the hood, Shak uses Chef. I think the idea of a scriptable configuration management system is the right choice... I think some issues with Chef were mentioned. As a side note, Shak appears very similar to a direction of things I was exploring before I went full-on Guix, when I was very interested in solutions involving keeping Debian and etc systems up to date. I was working on a recipe system that was using s-expressions with Hy and then later Guile, I think partly because I ran into some of the issues mentioned with Chef when I tried doing things with Salt and other tools... Anyway, even though my focus has shifted to Guix, I think Debian is super important and will be for a long time, and I think multiple groups working on this stuff is important. A lot of the ideas happening in Shak are the right ones, I think. Cool stuff! Happy userops'ing everyone, - Chris _______________________________________________ Userops mailing list [email protected] http://lists.mediagoblin.org/listinfo/userops ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Olivier Mehani <[email protected]> PGP fingerprint: 4435 CF6A 7C8D DD9B E2DE F5F9 F012 A6E2 98C6 6655 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted.
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