FreeDOS should never become an entirely 32-bit OS IMHO. FreeDOS-32 is working on a 32-bit DOS. If the utilities CAN compile as 32-bit, that is great, but 16-bit apps tend to be much smaller for most uses, and for utilities like TSRs, it is virtually impossible for them to be 32-bit. With utilities like FIND, you can do everything in just a couple of kb, whereas with DJGPP, the same app would likely be up to 300-500 kb.
On 9/30/06, TG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmmm...lets see... > > FreeDOS compiled with DJGPP... > > The OS can boot the same way, the go32 extender can be added to all the > executables to run in protected mode on 386 and higher machines (386 is the > baseline for LFN anyways, right), so basically the installer would have to > do a processor check as follows: > > If CPU < 386 > install FreeDOS Classic (real mode version) > else > install FreDOS/XM (real mode boot, DPMI utilities) > > FreeDOS/XM could be rewritten totally in protected mode, but then real mode > subsystem would have to be written to allow real mode apps to run. I'm sure > someone (like me) is gonna run Norton Editor 1.3 on FreeDOS/XM and we all > know about NE's fast screen writes (I've seen snow on many a CGA monitor)... > > Well there are my thoughts, but what happens with FreeDOS/32 and ReactOS? > > -T > > --- Original Message ----- > From: "Lyrical Nanoha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 7:03 PM > Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] djgpp > > > > On Sat, 30 Sep 2006, Joris van Rantwijk wrote: > > > >> On Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 11:48:35AM +0000, Imre Leber wrote: > >>> After having an extensive private chat with Eric. I was wondering > >>> what the overall interest of the project would be to move the FreeDOS > >>> utilities to a DJGPP based platform. > >> > >> Does this imply that FreeDOS would become a 32-bit OS and that > >> the utilities would no longer work on a real (16-bit) IBM PC? > >> > >> Since such plans have come up several times lately, I would like > >> to emphasize the following thing: > >> > >> For me, a FreeDOS that does not properly run on a real PC is utterly > >> useless. In fact I think it would be ridiculous to make a 386-only > >> system and calling it XxxDOS, since all versions of "the real DOS" > >> do run on original PC hardware. > >> > >> Sometimes these concerns are waved away with the argument that pre-386 > >> systems are not used anymore except by hobbyists. My reply to that is > >> that FreeDOS itself is not used by anybody except hobbyists. Kicking > >> out everybody with old hardware and emulators sounds like a bad move. > >> > >> Joris. > > > > DR-DOS still works on an 8086. ROM-DOS works on an 80186 (but not an > > 8086). I think even RxDOS will run on an 8086, but its compatibility > > leaves much to be desired. If FreeDOS were to go 386-only... then someone > > might fork it to keep it 8086-compatible. > > > > -uso. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share > > your > > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash > > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > > _______________________________________________ > > Freedos-devel mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Freedos-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > -- Fall is my favorite season in Los Angeles, watching the birds change color and fall from the trees. David Letterman (1947 - ) See ya ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ Freedos-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
