Hi, On 7/16/11, Jim Hall <jh...@freedos.org> wrote: > > Based on discussions with Bernd as we prepare for FreeDOS 1.1, I've > done some cleanup on the Software List. The major edits: > > * DOSFSCK: moved Util -> Base
While I agree this is "better", it's still nice to have CHKDSK for 16-bit cpus (since DOSFSCK is DJGPP / 386+). > * HIMEM: deleted (use HIMEMX) > * XMGR: added to Base (removed FDXMS, FDXMS286) Was this intentional? We don't need two (though it's nice to have both in case one has bugs with something). These days I tend to prefer XMGR. HIMEMX (AFAICT) has no maintainer (and/or we really need to push out that "jmp $+2" fix for old 386s, i.e. unofficial version 3.33, been procrastinating that for years!). > Please have a look and let me know if I need to update anything > else.<http://www.freedos.org/software/> To be completely honest, please don't take this the wrong way, but some of those I literally never use (or can't remember how!): * append * assign * comp * choice * edit (but do keep this, I guess, though I prefer others) * exe2bin (really? anybody use that? then where's "link"? heh) * fasthelp (does this even do anything?) * graphics (apparently my hardware hates it) * lbacache (still good but UIDE makes it and TICKLE and CDRCACHE redundant) * mirror * nlsfunc (broken with 2040??) * print (doesn't work for me) * recover * share * tree * undelete (FAT32 buggy?) * unformat Something I would maybe? add is whats-his-face's Restore, but it's for "non-military" use, heh, aka not GPL friendly. Then again, that's another rare util I don't personally need. But it's classic "BASE", IMHO. I mean, if we want to mirror MS-DOS, we should include BWBasic (or Regina Rexx for similarity to PC-DOS). But I don't figure anybody would agree to that. Heck, if you want to be different, include XPL0 !! ;-) Almost forgot, yeah, I would (personally) add sed, specifically "cheap sed", which already is GPL and has a DOS 16-bit binary: http://lvogel.free.fr/sed.htm It's basically a cleaned up version of hhsed which was derived from Eric Raymond's version. I also see that even ESR now only points to (other dude's) "minised" as the proper replacement. Surprisingly, it's still dead simple (!) to compile that (and I tested with DJGPP yesterday), but I haven't built it with OpenWatcom, so I don't know if it's 16-bit friendly. http://www.exactcode.de/site/open_source/minised/ Perhaps we should include Awk (old Mawk 1.2.2? old 16-bit Gawk 3.0.6?) instead? Or maybe you think that's too *nix-y? I don't even grok Awk (heh), just saying, it's at least as useful as sed (though I heavily use sed almost exclusively). Oh, I forgot, one guy tweaked BWK's Awk a few months ago to compile with OW (even for DOS 16-bit). So that would be a good alternative too, if you prefer a more recent (and hopefully less buggy) version. http://www.gknw.net/mirror/awk/ > Keeping the software list up-to-date is a community effort. If you see > anything there that looks out of place, or out of date, etc please let > me know. Just send me an email and I'll update it. I guess I'm one of the updating fiends. But even I've slowed down (somewhat, stupid computer problems). It's hard to find everything, even harder to keep track of versions, what works, what doesn't, etc. > We use an online tool to edit the software list via a web browser, and > several "admin" folks have the ability to update the software list in > this way. You can also contact Pat, Aitor, Eric, Rugxulo, Mateusz, or > Jeremy. No offense, but most of this stuff is unmaintained. In fact, that reminds me, MOVE still needs the +R bug fixed. (And a lot of these should be upgraded to support LFNs, for DOSEMU if nothing else.) Ah well, always more to do. :-/ P.S. I know we're all tired of having to do everything ourselves and also tired of waiting for 1.1 to finally come out. But hey, that's life, everybody's off doing ten different other projects too, even me (barely). Oh well, if we just do a little at a time, we'll get there one day .... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AppSumo Presents a FREE Video for the SourceForge Community by Eric Ries, the creator of the Lean Startup Methodology on "Lean Startup Secrets Revealed." This video shows you how to validate your ideas, optimize your ideas and identify your business strategy. http://p.sf.net/sfu/appsumosfdev2dev _______________________________________________ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
