Hi,

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Jim Michaels <[email protected]> wrote:
> - PC Blue library has msdos stuff http://cd.textfiles.com/pcblue/

Looks like old stuff (figForth? quite ancient). The descriptions are
quite bare, so I don't know how much is useful.

(FreeDOS heavily prefers free/libre these days, BTW, which I'm
assuming most of that isn't, sadly. There is a lot of old DOS software
out there, but a very small subset has sources, much less permits the
"four basic freedoms". Just saying, it's kinda a deal breaker to some
people.)

> - SIG-M Library has MSDOS stuff

Where is that? (BTW, I'm not sure where you're coming from here, heh.)

> - Java JVM at one time ran on MSDOS (I have this) has a version 0.1.6?
> something like this), came as a zip file, and came with example programs. I
> have vm_dos_016a.zip  but I found this:
> http://zxxl.com/files/jvm/ms-virtual-machine.htm

N.B. I've never done any Java work, so someone else (e.g. Eric) would
know more about this than I do.

That link above doesn't show anything obvious, but I didn't read too
closely. I blindly assume it means the Windows version of J++.

But I assume you're acutally referring to JavaPC. At one time (1997)
that was available commercially for DOS, built via DJGPP. But we're
talking old 1.1 Java, which was when it used green threads.

http://www.delorie.com/djgpp//mail-archives/browse.cgi?p=djgpp/1998/07/26/12:00:23

Have fun trying to get Oracle to open source it!   ^_^

> you may be able to
> convince http://www.kaffe.org/ports.shtml to port kaffe to DOS.using djgpp,

IIRC, Kaffe was already (half-)ported years and years ago, but it
might've been a DJGPP v1 [sic] build. I don't think I ever tried it
(buggy?). Probably easier to just build latest version (famous last
words, and no, I'm not going to attempt that right now, heh).

http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~grill/kaffe/
http://www.kaffe.org/

> I don't see any better C++ compiler out there.

C++? Where did that come from? I thought we were talking Java?   ;-)

> AHH! I just found this JVM
> for DOS on sf.net http://ledos.sourceforge.net/  the project page is at
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/ledos/

I've seen that too, IIRC it's just a 8086 Java (heavy) subset that
still needs the SDK (or some such). Never tried it. Honestly, I never
tried any of these, probably because they barely work, and I don't
grok Java (tm).

Even if you could get some of these working, they're too old. Java is
up to, what, 7 (aka, 1.7 ?) ?? While I'm sure you could get some of it
working, it's probably not a popular idea (for obvious reasons). GCJ
exists, but IIRC, nobody ever bothered to get it working with DJGPP.
GCC has already added Go and will soon add D, but it's unlikely that
DJGPP will ever support either, at least directly. Similarly for GM2
if it ever gets merged into trunk. (Even the Ada support is almost
bitrotted. Not sure about Fortran or Objective C. It seems DJGPP isn't
tested as much outside of C or C++.)

I also remember Waba, which isn't Java but is somewhat similar in some
vague way. You could take a look at that, but don't get your hopes up.

http://www.thisiscool.com/doswaba.htm
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/waba/

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