Looks like I forgot to make the "read NovOS letter" into a link, so here is
the URL:
http://www.ctyme.com/dri2.htm
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Jim Hall <jh...@freedos.org> wrote:
> Mike pointed out that the FreeDOS Road Map
> <http://www.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/FreeDOS_Road_Map> (wiki) is out of
> date and short on details and suggested a broad discussion on the road map,
> get consensus and have it updated.
>
> I figured we should start a separate discussion thread about that.
>
>
> First, a little history on the "road map":
>
>
> When I started FreeDOS in 1994, the goal was to create a free version of
> DOS, compatible with MS-DOS. (original PD-DOS announcement
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.os.msdos.apps/oQmT4ETcSzU/O1HR8PE2u-EJ>)
> (original Free-DOS manifesto
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.os.msdos.apps/W6MuhF__R9s/MgdzBrlanTwJ>
> )
>
> That aim remained essentially the same for a long time. And I believe we
> met that with version 1.0 a few years ago. FreeDOS 1.1 was an update to
> FreeDOS 1.0, so things didn't really change there.
>
> In 2009 <http://www.freedos.org/jhall/blog/?id=20090511-192954>, I
> briefly stepped away from FreeDOS to focus on a graduate program (I ended
> up changing jobs instead, and didn't do the M.S. program until a few years
> later). During that time, Pat Villani stepped in as project coordinator.
>
> Pat wanted to do something to spur development, so in 2010
> <http://www.freedos.org/wiki/index.php?title=FreeDOS_Road_Map&oldid=845>
> he wrote the first version of the FreeDOS Road Map (see old version
> <http://www.freedos.org/wiki/index.php?title=FreeDOS_Road_Map&oldid=845>).
>
> In 2011 <http://www.freedos.org/jhall/blog/?id=20110502-164858>, Pat's
> health was getting worse, so I came back as project coordinator. Nothing
> had been done on the road map, so I replaced it with a copy/paste from a
> blog post I had written earlier (see blog post
> <http://www.freedos.org/jhall/blog/?id=20110502-164858>) until I could go
> back and update it "for real" later on.
>
> A few days ago, Harold (aka Mercury Thirteen) mentioned the road map on
> the wiki. I realized I never updated the road map, so I tacked a "THIS PAGE
> IS OUT OF DATE" notice at the top of the wiki entry.
>
> More recently, Chelson announced on our Facebook group
> <https://www.facebook.com/groups/freedos/> his kickstarter project to
> fund development of FreeDOS-32, with the hope that this kernel could be
> part of "FreeDOS 2.0". I shared his announcement on the website and on
> freedos-devel this morning.
>
>
>
> I think that brings us to this discussion. :-)
>
>
> *My thoughts on FreeDOS 1.2 and FreeDOS 2.0:*
>
> I think the next distribution will be FreeDOS 1.2 because I want to
> reserve "2.0" for a major shift in how FreeDOS software is organized and
> what we include. I'm currently looking at the packages we list on the
> Software List, so maybe we'll get to "2.0" soon - but I think it's safe to
> assume the next FreeDOS distribution will be 1.2 and the one after that
> would be 2.0.
>
>
> *My thoughts on FreeDOS 1.2:*
>
> FreeDOS 1.2 is basically an update from FreeDOS 1.1. The biggest change is
> probably the installer: It should be very simple, very straightforward.
> FreeDOS isn't very big or complex, so it doesn't make sense to have a lot
> of install options.
>
> The current install process (FreeDOS 1.1) has a lot of steps to it. I
> think we could simplify this a bit. I'm not sure about the full steps for
> the install process, but to brainstorm something, here's a sketched out
> plan:
>
> 1. *Boot the FreeDOS Install CDROM.* This is basically a "live" FreeDOS,
> which happens to boot into an automated install process.
> - If you Exit the process at any time, you go back to a DOS prompt. (This
> is useful for people who just want to run FreeDOS from CD without
> installing it.)
>
> 2. *Does the C: drive exist?*
> - If not, prompt the user to run FDISK. Reboot to re-read the partition
> table.
>
> 3. *Is the C: drive usable?*
> - If not, prompt the user to run FORMAT.
>
> 4. *Start the INSTALL program.*
>
> 5. *Run SYS to make the C: drive bootable.*
>
> 6. *Do any follow-up steps* (such as creating a default CONFIG.SYS and
> AUTOEXEC.BAT, set language, etc).
>
> 7. *Done*
>
>
>
>
> *My thoughts on FreeDOS 2.0:*
>
> I'd like to see a modernized version of DOS. This might be as ambitious
> as Marc Perkel mentioned in his 1991 letter to his Novell bosses about a
> modern DOS, which he called "NovOS" (read NovOS letter). Or it could be
> something less ambitious, basically a modernization of the FreeDOS
> userspace (utilities, etc) while keeping the original DOS kernel.
>
> I haven't used FreeDOS-32 but if it supports classic DOS programs on
> modern systems, while adding new and useful features, I would support using
> that kernel in FreeDOS 2.0. (I said this on Facebook, too
> <https://www.facebook.com/groups/freedos/permalink/10152599941377887/?comment_id=10152600011617887&offset=0&total_comments=27>.)
> Above all, application compatibility is 100% important. FreeDOS 2.0 needs
> to run applications written for MS-DOS.
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
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