Hi,

On Sep 10, 2015 4:46 PM, "Eric Auer" <e.a...@jpberlin.de> wrote:
>
>
> Hi!
>
> > How many of you remember the DOS 6.22 install process? If possible, it
> > should aim for that. It's simple and straight to the point. It worked
>
> As far as I remember, it was 3 floppies and only "base" software...
> Also, under which conditions would it format / partition your disk?

It would only start fdisk if it didnt detect a DOS partition, but you had
to make the space.

If a usable FAT partition existed, it would offer to format it or just use
it. In order to boot DOS, you had to modify the boot loader...that would be
the only intrusion.

Windows does that now. If it detects a usable NTFS or FAT32 partition, it
will offer to format or use it as is. If it detects a Windows folder, it
will rename it to Windows.old.

> > across all platforms and got DOS up and running with minimal fuss. Once
the
>
> All platforms back at that time was harddisks of at most 8 GB, with
> older BIOS even only 1/2 GB, only CHS, only FAT12 and FAT16, because
> nothing else was supported by MS DOS 6.22 :-p
>
> Also, there was minimal fuss because people did not have dual boot.
> You only had to care about "already has older DOS" versus "this is
> a new empty harddisk". If you format all disks which have "no DOS"
> today, you get MANY angry users who are surprised by the demolition
> of their existing Windows, Linux or other OS.
>
> > setup is done, after a reboot, the FreeDOS package manager can run to
add
> > additional software and system tweaks.
>
> I do not care at which point a reboot is needed. However, for those
> who install in a VM, it is best if the install process does not need
> too many virtual CD insertions or removals. The installer should be
> able to detect which steps have been completed: That way, you do not
> have to remove the CD before rebooting and still get a full install.
>
> > The package manager could be a 16-bit or 32-bit application. (I remember
> > PKZIP running perfectly fine on my Tandy 1000 EX before I had 640K
RAM), so
> > FDPKG would have to work from a floppy disk/image on lower end systems
(or
> > lower end in emulation)
>
> As mentioned earlier, computers older than 386 cannot normally boot
> from anything large and portable (CD, DVD, USB stick) so you would
> only install a basic DOS on them, maybe simply by hand: Take some
> floppy with pre-installed FreeDOS, FORMAT, XCOPY and SYS, done :-)
>
> You can always use UNZIP or FDPKG or similar later if you manage to
> connect a CD drive or network card to your 286 or 8086 for extra fun.
>
> On the other hand, if you have a computer which is less than 50 years
> old, simply use a generic boot CD or DVD with all the fun on it, with
> a small, probably bootable RAMDISK to make installation easy. And do
> not worry about what you whether you want 8086 ROM BASIC drivers ;-)
>
> At the risk of stating the obvious, please give the existing distros
> of FreeDOS 1.x and their installers a try and do NOT re-invent all
> wheels. Start by what is already is working and improve from there.
>
> This includes letting the FDPKG / FDNPKG installer do most work of
> nicely unpacking the per-package ZIPs and doing bookkeeping, batch
> install triggers and similar nice FreeDOS package management stuff.
>
> Cheers, Eric
>
>
>
>
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