Hi,

I missed the fun of this thread, but I guess Kirl may mean Microsoft's VMM.

Opinions may vary, for many DOS is exclusively 16-bit, but in my opinion,
VMM+VsDs is DOS too (VDOS, VFAT, VREDIR... all are the 32-bit versions of
DOS concepts).
The fact that Microsoft did sell them attached to Windows9X rather than DOS
is to me a commercial strategy to make people switch from DOS to
Windows[NT]. After all, they are software components that could have been
easily disaggregated from Windows (that starts with KRNL386.EXE), and thus
provide a multitasking virtual-memory version of DOS, where other GUI
makers could have profited from.  (I ignore where the EXE/PE loading bit
is, if it is in VDOS, we could even have had DLL's in DOS).

The fun bit is, did someone REALLY ask you Jim to port DOS to a Samsung
Watch?
I have one. As you can attach no keyboard, I suppose he meant by a voice
interface, like:
"Siri, COPY C:\*.*  D:"
Fun if I could just shout at my watch (or even my PC) to do that.

Aitor


On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 at 15:51, Liam Proven via Freedos-devel <
freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 at 04:07, Kirn Gill via Freedos-devel
> <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> >
> > VMM, anyone?
>
> What do you mean by this?
>
> By "VMM" do you mean the virt-manager front-end to KVM/Xen?
>
> https://virt-manager.org/
>
> As in, run FreeDOS under KVM? Or, "we should port virt-manager to FreeDOS?"
>
> Or, do you mean "we need a virtual-machine manager for DOS?"
>
> I can't realistically see how that could be done, but as some vast
> effort, I suppose it could be possible.
>
> Or, do you mean "we need a way to run FreeDOS under KVM?"
>
> Perhaps as a way around UEFI? That is doable.
>
> HP distributes what it _calls_ FreeDOS but is actually an old version
> of Debian, configured to boot silently, start QEMU, start FreeDOS
> inside QEMU and display just that:
>
>
> https://blog.tmm.cx/2022/05/15/the-very-weird-hewlett-packard-freedos-option/
>
> If you mean "FreeDOS should offer a VM-based solution so it can be run
> on UEFI machines" then maybe yes, a Devuan+FreeDOS (or some
> lighter-weight Linux, say Alpine or TCL or something, distro would be
> interesting... but complicated to achieve.
>
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