Hi,

> On Sep 9, 2024, at 1:20 AM, Paul Dufresne via Freedos-devel 
> <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> 
> ---- Le dim., 08 sept. 2024 16:08:53 -0400 Wilhelm Spiegl  a écrit ----
> 
> Hi Paul, just a stupid question,
> did you need the access only to upload rcal or do you plan do update / fix 
> other programs too?
> I know several program bugs that should be fixed some day.
> 
> PS, I created a list with hyperlinks to most freedos related files / websites 
> this spring. But I am sure some are still missing.
> If you are interested in it, simply inform me.
> 
> Willi
> --
> 
> Well... this was an access to rcal only... but I do care to make FreeDOS 
> evolve over time... but even if I do have a good amount of free time...
> I am making an already bad job at maintaining the programs I listed myself as 
> the maintainer:
> chess game,
> pretty all DJGPP related software...
> and now rcal.
> 
> Part of it is DJGPP seems to not have received yet an official place (not on 
> FULL or BONUS)...
> 
> Some of the one that I maintain and are already on FULLL or BONUS it seems 
> are not updated because my .lsm file is in lowercase
> (and get a warning that unstable branch have no LSM file... not finding which 
> one now).

When the RBE creates an interim build, it pulls from the “unstable” branch of 
it exists.  If that branch does not exist, it will pull from the default 
(master or main) branch. File case is not relevant for what branch gets used. 
The RBE then creates a FreeDOS compatible package of the project from the 
branch it cloned. 


> Lately... one of the nagging thing for me is the removing of networking 
> packet drivers... and of the Wiki... But I see a documentation branch
> on Gitlab have appears (somewhat maybe to replace the wiki I imagine)... 
> Somehow I sometime imagine I could port a packet driver from
> FreeBSD or from an other free open-source OS... but I am unsure I am able to 
> do it... or really get at it.
> 
> It would probably be a bit more motivating if I was seeing all my changes go 
> on one of the testing image each month... but it is also or mostly
> a problem of competitive interests.

Unfortunately, the updated DJGPP packages have not been included on the Interim 
Test Builds. The reason is simply because of space. In the hundreds of 
megabytes, the DJGPP packages require a lot of room. 

At present, there is simply not enough room to provide all of the packages on 
the primary install media and the bonus CD. I don’t think there is enough room 
even the few packages that are provided on both media were not duplicated. 

Add to that the possibility of including additional games and other programs 
(like PC-GEOS) could add hundreds of more megabytes to the OS.

There several things that could be done.

We could limit the release media to a much smaller set of packages. Leaving 
everything else only online to be downloaded by end users as needed. 

Personally, I really dislike that idea for several reasons. First, it can be 
very difficult for users to get packages onto their machine for installation if 
they do not have networking support. Also, it is also very inconvenient for 
them to find out what is available in those repositories. 

We could split the packages provided up into different media. For example, the 
LiveCD could be a little slimmer and only contain the most common packages. 
Then maybe a GamesCD, DevelCD, GuiCD… as needed. Possibly since DJGPP is so 
large, maybe on its own CD. Then, users could just download the additional CDs 
that interest them. These CDs could even include the OS installer that is 
configured to install FreeDOS BASE plus all the packages on that specific CD. 

We could go from a BonusCD to a BonusDVD and increase the size of the FULL USB. 
That would basically leave things more or less as they are now but would 
include all of the packages. 

There a lot of possibilities. It is a very big problem which has been discussed 
a couple of times. But, there are a lot of different views on what should be 
done and nothing has been resolved.



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