On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 at 10:53, Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel
<freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> Unfortunately, I think my goals and the desires of most of PGME’s users is at 
> odds with what you want.

Um. Your program, your baby. But how do you know that?

Also, I think you misunderstand me because of what you said next...

> Although, PGME could be configured to resemble something along the lines of 
> the visual aesthetics you mentioned

(?) i didn't mention any aesthetics at all. I just said that I would
prefer plain text mode, no colours, by default. This is for speed and
compatibility ands simplicity, not aesthetics.

> (similar to the KIOSK theme and mode)

I've never seen it so I am absolutely definitely not comparing anything to it.

> it would be a lot of effort to create that theme

(?)

I'm not asking for a new theme or  a new look. I'm asking for the
option *not to have a theme*.

> Also, I would not be willing to make a theme like that the default.

That is your call.

> However, all hope is not lost.

Yeah it is... from the next line.

> I do see the validity in what you want from a menu. Therefore, I will most 
> likely create a different menu program at some point.

OMG no. Please no.  Not another. There are already half a dozen broken
incomplete launchers in FreeDOS. Adding more would make it worse.
PLEASE do not do this.

I am asking for simplicity and you are offering more complexity
instead. This is the opposite of what I want. Please do not do it.

> One that is extremely simple to use, less visually overwhelming and without 
> all of the features provided by PGME.

No, not really, no. I think you did not understand me at all but worse
still you think you did and are now building on the misunderstanding.

One of the several partial broken shells already in DOS is FDShell.
https://fdshell.sourceforge.net/

Rip out the file manager, because there are already several, and just
finish the launcher part of that, and that would do all I need. But as
it stands it is not functional and should be removed from FreeDOS.

> As a side note, when you mentioned that the mouse did not work with PC-DOS 
> 2000 using the included Microsoft mouse, I tested it again.
>
> I created a fresh virtual machine in VirtualBox and installed PC-DOS 2000 and 
> copied over PGME. I had no issues with the mouse using the included Microsoft 
> driver. So, I’m unsure why you are experiencing problems.

I just loaded a vanilla DOS mouse driver on FreeDOS. Perhaps that is
the difference?

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