> On Oct 23, 2024, at 1:18 PM, Jim Hall <jh...@freedos.org> wrote: > > I think I represented the list discussions accurately in my video > about T2410. [1] I realized later that I didn't name the 2 packages we > were dropping-- but I guess that's what I get when I record a video > very quickly. > > The Utilities group is quite long so it would make sense to split it > up. I'd recommend more human-readable names, because real people will > need to find the packages and will use the group names to find their > way. So rather than names like 'sysutil' and 'diskutil' and > 'miscutil,' I recommend names like 'system' and 'disk' and 'util' > (that is, keep the 'util' group name, and create new groups for system > tools and disk tools.
I don’t think “system” is a good name for the “system related utilities”. It could easily be confused with BASE. There are two different names to consider. There is the package directory and the name displayed in FDIMPLES. This is similar to when a visitor is browsing the online repository in HTML format. For example, (apps) is “Applications”. If we are moving most of the stuff in the current Utilities group to the BonusCD, we need to move a couple packages out of that group and into a group that will remain on the LiveCD. Those few utilities are critical to making the installed operating system function correctly. Since times change and who knows if they will be needed in future versions (like FreeDOS 2.0), I do not think they should be moved into BASE. They should probably be moved into their own group which could be named to indicate that they are very important. > > Let's keep talking about it on the list. We can iterate through things > in-person, during the get-together, and bring the discussion back to > the list to continue the conversation here. > > [1] YouTube channel is here: > https://www.youtube.com/@freedosproject > > > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 6:48 AM <jer...@shidel.net> wrote: > [..] >> I did watch the video you made on the changes in T2410. Overall, >> I think the thoughts you mentioned would be okay. >> >> However, there will be a few minor complications involved. Namely some >> of the Utilities required by BASE cannot be moved to the BonusCD. Those >> will need placed in a new (as of yet undetermined) package group to be >> kept on the LiveCD. Not hard to do. We just need to make some decisions. >> >> It would be good to discuss such things during the get-together >> before T2411. >> >> Possibly for T2411 or more likely T2412, I think we should break-up >> the Utilities group. Over the years, it has become a dumping ground for >> anything that did not belong in one of the other groups. At present on >> GitLab, the “Boot Tools” group has 3 packages and “Utilities” >> has 75. >> >> While both the Base and Development groups are over 50 packages, >> their contents are all fairly well related. On the other hand, a lot >> of the things in the Utilities group are not related to most of the >> other packages. It may be good to break it up a little. >> >> Possible drop “Utilities” (utils) in favor of 3 groups… (utilsys) >> Utilities System, (utildisk) Utilities Disk and (utilmisc) Utilities >> Other. That would keep them sorted alphabetically in FDIMPLES. However, >> it would probably be fine as (sysutil) System Utilities, (diskutil) >> Disk Utilities and (miscutil) Other Utilities / General Utilities. _______________________________________________ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
