Hallo Herr Fritz Mueller via Freedos-devel,

am Sonntag, 9. Februar 2025 um 19:06 schrieben Sie:

> Hi Tom,
> I am not happy that I have to do this now, but I think it is time "to wash 
> your head". Cholerical attacks are not nice for you and others, but as I had 
> several of your attacks over the last years I think it is time that you 
> excuse yourself to me 
Not going to happen. Consider to excuse yourself for overusing 'milestones'.

> and others as I am not the only one. That's the minimum from my sight. So 
> much about this theme.  
> I am sure others will agree.  
>    
> If you would have read the text exactly, you would have noticed that 2 GB 
> were only reported as a bug fix, not as a new feature. The old version only 
> supported FAT16 and 2 GB, so 2TB are not only ONE but THOUSAND milestones!  
Another excuse due.

> I assume that you never tested command and kernel on a 2 TB virtual HD
correct. I don't remember the size, but probably something like 100GB.

>  (on vmware you can also choose a bigger one, fdisk restricts itself to 2 
> TB). If you had, you would have noticed, that FD fdisk supports full 2TB, but 
> format still does not support full 2 TB, only something a little below, but 
> this makes it hard for USERS (like me) to understand the correct usage if 
> fdisk says "this is the maximum size" and format gives an error message 
> because this is too much size for it.  

sounds like it's working for ~1TB. 

> And strictly spoken it is not the debt of format, but of the kernel (I have a 
> test version of the kernel where this problems does not occur and you can 
> create real 2 TB).  
> The joke is, when I start the program, it looks for the size and does not 
> change it while copying in about 2000 files. But at the end sometimes a size 
> stays over and FD "dir" says that there is still free space. But it is even 
> not possible to execute:  
> "echo This is Toms excuse > excuse.txt". The command simply hangs.  
> Then shutting down the machine and rebooting it again a simple "dir" says: 0 
> Byte free. Simply test it. You only need VMware or virtual box that needs 
> less space for an empty 2 TB HD and a lot of time. But it does not always 
> happen. So I reported this to Eric. Tests like this are not my first tests! 
> And most of them were correct.  
>    


> And: it is no marketing blabla,
Using 'milestones' almost always is. It certainly is for 2'nd order utilities 
to support FAT32.

>  I want to encourage the programmers to create working tools like chkdsk, 
> dosfsck, defrag etc that really work on 2 TB. Otherwise it would be better to 
> remove the FAT32 feature out of FD again.
I think the clinical term is "Throwing a temper tantrum".

>  And in my eyes it would be a disgrace to distribute a version 2.0 without 
> this features.
I can agree with that. Just not going to happen any time soon.

Tom

>   
>    
> Sorry, but I think this had to be said.  
>    
> Willi  
>   
>   
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2025 at 4:33 PM
> From: "tom ehlert via Freedos-devel" <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> To: "Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers." 
> <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Cc: "tom ehlert" <t...@drivesnapshot.de>
> Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] ZEROFILL R2.01 Released (was ZEROFILL R2.00 
> Releas ed)  
> Hallo Herr Fritz Mueller via Freedos-devel,

>  am Sonntag, 9. Februar 2025 um 13:48 schrieben Sie:

 >> Hi Eric, hi all,
 >>
 >> I am happy to inform you that Nikkho published version 2.0.5 of ZEROFILL.
 >> It fixed a lot of minor bugs, among others it was unable to write more than 
 >> 2 GB with FD and
 >> if you delete the zerofile files it shows that they are deleted (in older 
 >> versions you could not
 >> see that it deleted files and you had the feeling that it crashed).

>  Nice. However correctly handling 4GB+ disks correctly might be expected from 
> a 2.0.5 utility.


 >> I tested it several times in virtual machines, and it works fine! With 
 >> vmware you are even
 >> able to mount a real existing HD and to write inside with zerofill! (Be 
 >> careful, vmware does
 >> not ask you for drive letters, but for HD numbers first, later for the 
 >> partition that you want
 >> to use - and vmware needs admin rights. Of course you need FAT32.)
 >> Interestingly vmware was writing much faster than virtualbox. Even working 
 >> with virtualbox
 >> and vmdk was slower.
 >>
 >> What most of you will overlook:
 >> Zerofill is the FIRST FD tool that really handles a 2 TB formatted HD!

>  While I haven't tested COMMAND on a 2 TB disk, I expect it to report free 
> disk space correctly. For more then 10 years.

 >> Neither chkdsk nor dosfsck, defrag etc. do this till now!
>  They are an entirely different class of utilities.

 >> So ZEROFILL is a milestone in supporting big HDs by FreeDOS. 
 >> CONGRATULATIONS, Nikkho!
>  Please spare us this marketing BLA. Fixing bugs is nice, but doesn't make 
> the 'milestones'.

>  Tom




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