Yo whom it may concern:

Can I get this newsletter in and individual email instead of the digest??

Allan Hoppel

Have a great day

PS   What is the easiset way to learn basic?  Is Visual Basic and good place to 
start?

I am eager to learn Basic so that I can get FreeDos and be able to program in 
it and also learn Pascal!

Any tips would be greatly appreciated!






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> freedos and ghost ( ??? ) (Giorgos) 
> 4. Question about Virtual Box performance. (Giorgos) 
> 5. Re: How to make a cd which can boot from the cdrom with 
> freedos and ghost (John Heim) 
> 6. [OT] Arachne, FreeDOS 1.0 and DOSEMU (Florian Xaver) 
> 7. Re: Question about Virtual Box performance. (Daniel Franzini) 
> 8. Re: How to make a cd which can boot from the cdrom with 
> freedos and ghost (Alain M.) 
> 9. Tesxt mode Screen-grabber (Alain M.) 
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> Message: 1 
> Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 11:36:11 -0300 
> From: "Josberto Vieira" 
> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 14, Issue 1 
> To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net 
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> "It will be that the team of the Audacity would not help me to adapt it for 
> the FreeDOS?" 
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> Message: 2 
> Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 11:08:47 -0500 
> From: "Jim Hall" 
> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 14, Issue 1 
> To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net 
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> On 7/4/07, Josberto Vieira wrote: 
> > "It will be that the team of the Audacity would not help me to adapt it for 
> > the FreeDOS?" 
> 
> ??? 
> 
> I take it you mean the Audacity project, the free, open source 
> software for recording and editing sounds. It is available for Mac OS 
> X, Microsoft Windows, GNU/Linux, and BSD? 
> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------ 
> 
> Message: 3 
> Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 20:27:04 +0300 
> From: "Giorgos" 
> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] How to make a cd which can boot from the 
> cdrom with freedos and ghost ( ??? ) 
> To: 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; 
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> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > Message: 5 
> > Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 20:52:54 +0800 
> > From: " ??? " 
> > 
> > hi,everyone 
> > I'am a noviciate for freedos,I have downloaded the fdbasews.iso from 
> > Freedos 
> > Project,at first i think this can load freedos OS with only cd 
> > and memory. 
> > but how can i make a iso file what can load freedos os not need any 
> > operation after I put the cd to the cdrom. 
> > -- 
> 
> Hi Yong! :-) 
> 
> Do you run Windows? Which version? XP maybe? 
> Are you familiar with (free) virtualization software (MS VPC or VMWARE 
> Server)? (you may need it, for creating the IMG file, and you'll need it for 
> testing the ISO file, without burning it first). 
> 
> Do you know how to creating bootable floppy IMG files (even if you don't 
> have a floppy drive)? 
> 
> If yes, please take a look at Dirk Paehl's (free) FolderBurn ( 
> http://www.paehl-info.de/cdr/folderburn.php ). 
> If not, please post again. 
> 
> PS: If you need help, for booting from USB stick also, please tell us. 
> 
> Greetings!!! 
> Giorgos. :-) 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------ 
> 
> Message: 4 
> Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 20:39:13 +0300 
> From: "Giorgos" 
> Subject: [Freedos-user] Question about Virtual Box performance. 
> To: 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; 
> reply-type=original 
> 
> Hi!!! :-) 
> 
> I read yesterday, a mail from chieffy (from FSM) to FSM subscribers, that 
> points at these pages: 
> http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/using_virtualbox_to_run_ubuntu 
> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Using_VirtualBox_to_run_Ubuntu_and_any_other_operatin
>  
> g_system 
> 
> It refers to http://virtualbox.org/ (that comes with freeware binaries and 
> open source sources). 
> Since I heard about it at chieffy's mail for the first time, I want to ask 
> you: 
> Is someone here, familiar with it? Can he compare it with VMWARE Server? Is 
> it better or worse? Is it faster or slower? Is it emulating FreeDOS 
> properly? What about (free) support options? 
> If someone is familiar with it, please share his experience - opinion, with 
> us. 
> 
> THANKS!!! 
> Giorgos. :-) 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------ 
> 
> Message: 5 
> Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 13:00:45 -0500 
> From: "John Heim" 
> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] How to make a cd which can boot from the 
> cdrom with freedos and ghost 
> To: 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; 
> reply-type=original 
> 
> From: "???" 
> To: 
> > Thanks mark ,eric responded mail so soon. 
> > I mean,I think make a cd with some software(like ghost,only run in dos 
> > mode),the cd can boot from cdrom,after the freedos have started up,We can 
> > run ghost with the 'ghost' command. 
> 
> I think you're asking about how to make an iso image from which you can 
> create a bootable CD. A lot of what you need to know is explained on this 
> page: 
> http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/ 
> 
> That is a good page to look at if you want to build a bootable CD even if 
> you don't use the tools offered for download on that page. I have 
> successfully created a bootable freedos diskette and then used Bart's 
> utility program on the page above to create a bootable CD. I'm blind so the 
> first thing I have DOS do after it boots from the CD is run the installer 
> for a speech program. Instead of installing speech, you could have it run 
> ghost. All you do to have it run something when you boot is put it in the 
> autoexec.bat file. 
> 
> I'm still just getting started with this and one thing I don't know how to 
> do is get past the 1.44 Mb size limit on a diskette. But even that is 
> explained on Bart's page (URL above). I just haven't gotten that far yet. 
> As somebody said, you have to build your diskette image with CDROM drivers. 
> 
> 
> Note to the rest of the list: 
> As I mentioned, I'm trying to make a CD that comes up talking. Having it run 
> the installer right after boot is no good because I can't see to run the 
> installer. This is where I am currently stuck. I thought what I'd do is try 
> to install the screen reader on a bootable freedos diskette and then build a 
> bootable CD. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------ 
> 
> Message: 6 
> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 00:10:30 +0200 
> From: "Florian Xaver" 
> Subject: [Freedos-user] [OT] Arachne, FreeDOS 1.0 and DOSEMU 
> To: freedos-user 
> Message-ID: 
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> 
> Hi, 
> 
> Werner Scholz's Arachne setup detects network perfectly under latest 
> DOSEMU, but after configuration of email (smtp and pop3) it terminates 
> with "Invalide opcode...". 
> Do you have any idea? 
> 
> I hadn't this problem under "real" DOS... 
> 
> Bye 
> Flo 
> -- 
> It is true that no one can essentially cultivate exact science 
> without understanding the mathematics of that science. But we are not 
> to suppose that the calculations and equations that mathematicians 
> find so useful constitute the whole of mathematics. The calculus is but 
> a part of mathematics. 
> (James Clerk Maxwell) 
> 
> Using Arachne, the GPL Web Browser/Suite 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------ 
> 
> Message: 7 
> Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 19:16:04 -0300 
> From: "Daniel Franzini" 
> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Question about Virtual Box performance. 
> To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net 
> Message-ID: 
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed 
> 
> On 7/4/07, Giorgos wrote: 
> > Hi!!! :-) 
> > 
> 
> hi 
> 
> 
> > Is someone here, familiar with it? 
> 
> what do you take for familiar? i have used it sometimes and it worked 
> fine to me...Win95 for basic stuff....i'm also in the quest of writing 
> a driver for FreeDOS in order to allow one to use the shared folders 
> (it seems that no VM has shared folders for FreeDOS at all...at least 
> in my experience: VirtualBOX, VirtualPC and VMWare don't have 
> it)....i've browsed the virtualbox sourcecode but i cannot find (yet) 
> the exact point where it allows the SO to read/write the local 
> folder...all i could find was a LOT of WinNT kernel-mode driver 
> code... 
> 
> > Can he compare it with VMWARE Server? Is 
> > it better or worse? Is it faster or slower? Is it emulating FreeDOS 
> > properly? What about (free) support options? 
> 
> well, since VMWare Server is freeware you can make you own tests with 
> it against virtualbox...i don't use vmware so i cannot tell much...i'm 
> also not sure about support options 
> 
> just a correction: virtualbox (and others) does not 'emulate' 
> FreeDOS...they emulate (or at least try to) a full standard x86 
> machine...the strategy to achieve performance is to let x86 native 
> code run as x86 native code and not to interpret it with the 
> vm....vmware implementation does this as well as virtualbox's....in 
> the VM they create, one can install FreeDOS, or any Linux flavor, or 
> Windows, or BSDs, or anything else wich seems to be an operating 
> system 
> 
> > If someone is familiar with it, please share his experience - opinion, with 
> > us. 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> > THANKS!!! 
> > Giorgos. :-) 
> > 
> > 
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> 
> -- 
> Daniel 
> 
> "Let us change our traditional attitude to the construction of 
> programs. Instead of imagining that our main task is to instruct a 
> computer what to do, let us concentrate rather on explaining to human 
> beings what we want a computer to do." (Donald Knuth) 
> 
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> (http://www.boogieonline.com/revolution/science/humor/)" 
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> "Man is driven to create; I know I really love to create things. And 
> while I'm not good at painting, drawing, or music, I can write 
> software." (Yukihiro Matsumoto, a.k.a. ``Matz'') 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------ 
> 
> Message: 8 
> Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 19:18:31 -0300 
> From: "Alain M." 
> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] How to make a cd which can boot from the 
> cdrom with freedos and ghost 
> To: John Heim , freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed 
> 
> This one works: http://www.netbootdisk.com/ FWIK, it's the new version, 
> (correct me if I am wrong) 
> 
> I believe that the link bellow is offline or obsolete :( 
> 
> Alain 
> 
> John Heim escreveu: 
> > From: "???" 
> > To: 
> >> Thanks mark ,eric responded mail so soon. 
> >> I mean,I think make a cd with some software(like ghost,only run in dos 
> >> mode),the cd can boot from cdrom,after the freedos have started up,We can 
> >> run ghost with the 'ghost' command. 
> > 
> > I think you're asking about how to make an iso image from which you can 
> > create a bootable CD. A lot of what you need to know is explained on this 
> > page: 
> > http://www.nu2.nu/bootcd/ 
> > 
> > That is a good page to look at if you want to build a bootable CD even if 
> > you don't use the tools offered for download on that page. I have 
> > successfully created a bootable freedos diskette and then used Bart's 
> > utility program on the page above to create a bootable CD. I'm blind so the 
> > first thing I have DOS do after it boots from the CD is run the installer 
> > for a speech program. Instead of installing speech, you could have it run 
> > ghost. All you do to have it run something when you boot is put it in the 
> > autoexec.bat file. 
> > 
> > I'm still just getting started with this and one thing I don't know how to 
> > do is get past the 1.44 Mb size limit on a diskette. But even that is 
> > explained on Bart's page (URL above). I just haven't gotten that far yet. 
> > As somebody said, you have to build your diskette image with CDROM drivers. 
> > 
> > 
> > Note to the rest of the list: 
> > As I mentioned, I'm trying to make a CD that comes up talking. Having it 
> > run 
> > the installer right after boot is no good because I can't see to run the 
> > installer. This is where I am currently stuck. I thought what I'd do is try 
> > to install the screen reader on a bootable freedos diskette and then build 
> > a 
> > bootable CD. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> ------------------------------ 
> 
> Message: 9 
> Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 19:22:05 -0300 
> From: "Alain M." 
> Subject: [Freedos-user] Tesxt mode Screen-grabber 
> To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net 
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed 
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> Please, I need a simple *text mode with collor* screen grabber for dos. 
> Not a super vga or vesa... just text ;-) 
> 
> So that I can insert the screen later into other documentations. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Alain 
> 
> 
> 
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