Hello,
I use XOSL as my boot loader, and as Eric says each OS is in its own primary
partition, XOSL boots first, with a list of the various (3) partitions and OS,
(windows,FreeDos, MSdos),...partition magic, and also one called partitition
wizard, that I got off of Hirens
boot CD, works well to activate or disactivate partions.
How ever on my laptop, never could get XOSL to install correctly..so I also
use grubfor dos, as mentioned and it works well, when it boots I get the
choice to boot with windows
or boot with freedos... I dont believe you can have both OSs in one partition..
to be honest I have never tried it.
good luck from
Garry
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Garrison Ricketson
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1. Re: Installing FreeDOS without the boot loader? (Alain Mouette)
2. Re: Installing FreeDOS without the boot loader? (Eric Auer)
3. Re: Installing FreeDOS without the boot loader? (Alain Mouette)
4. Re: Installing FreeDOS without the boot loader? (Alain Mouette)
5. Re: Zorland/Zortech C compiler? (Jim Lemon)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:37:44 -0300
From: Alain Mouette <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Installing FreeDOS without the boot
loader?
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Hi
FreeDOS does not need anything from the Win98 partition to boot. The
requisites are:
1) it must boot from a primary partition
2) the partition needs to be active.
Windows98 have the same requisites, that is the problem. But it can be
solved by Grub.. This is how I did it:
# This entry for FreeDOS on /dev/sda1
title FreeDOS
root (hd0,0)
savedefault
makeactive
chainloader +1
# This entry for Windows98 on /dev/sda2
title Windows 95/98/Me
root (hd0,1)
savedefault
makeactive
chainloader +1
Notice the makeactive command that changes the active partition
on-the-fly. But you will still need both to be primary partitions, only
a few programs can achieve this, sorry but I don't remember which,
probably PartedMagic <http://partedmagic.com/> is ok. (it can move
partitions too)
Alain
Em 13-06-2010 20:33, Eric escreveu:
> Is it possible to install FreeDOS 1.0 on a Windows 95/98 machine without
> it installing the boot loader into the Windows 98 partition?
>
> I have an old laptop with Windows 98 and Linux. I use Grub to
> multiboot, so I don't need the FreeDOS boot loader, and don't want to
> interfere with the Win98 partition.
>
> I realize (1) Win98 has its own DOS, I just want to play with FreeDOS,
> and (2) I could just sys the FreeDOS partition, but I'd rather use the
> FreeDOS installer if possible.
>
> Thanks.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 22:37:11 +0200
From: Eric Auer <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Installing FreeDOS without the boot
loader?
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Hi Alain, Eric,
> FreeDOS does not need anything from the Win98 partition to boot.
> The requisites are:
> 1) it must boot from a primary partition
> 2) the partition needs to be active.
Not really... Because you use GRUB, it is enough if you have
a valid boot sector in a FILE. Our SYS can make such files,
without actually SYSing your partition. So Windows stays as
it is, and you give the file to GRUB as the chainloader. You
just state the filename instead of the "+1" to make the DOS
menu item, which for the rest is a copy of the Windows one.
Example GRUB menu.lst snippet - GRUB 2 might differ a bit:
# on /dev/sda1
title FreeDOS
root (hd0,0)
# savedefault
chainloader /freedos.bot
# on /dev/sda1
title Windows
root (hd0,0)
# savedefault
chainloader +1
To make this work, you generate a freedos.bot file in the
root directory of the C: drive of Windows, using our SYS:
sys c: c:\freedos.bot bootonly
The "bootonly" stops SYS from copying kernel.sys and
command.com of FreeDOS to C: - instead, you can copy
our kernel.sys to the root directory of C: manually.
Do NOT copy command.com to that place! You might mix
it with the Windows one otherwise. Instead, put it
in a separate directory, for example c:\freedos\ :-)
Note that SYS cannot (as far as I remember) make good
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Message: 4-06-2010 22:01, [email protected] escreveu:
> >> Thank you Eric and Alain for your response. I've had pretty good
>luck in the past with booting FreeDOS with Grub. My question involves more of
>the process during which FreeDOS is installed.
> >>
> >> Until recently, I never had any problems installing FreeDOS.
>However, recently I tried installing it on a machine that had Windows 98
>(hda1) and Debian Linux (hda2). I created a primary HDA4 partition and
>formatted it as a FAT partition. I installed FreeDOS to this partition, but
>after that point, everytime I booted into Windows 98, I initially received a
>FreeDOS boot menu after Grub booted me into the Win98 partition. I located a
>file in the root directory of Windows 98, and when I tried altering that file,
>it made the Win98 partition unbootable. I have since reimaged the Windows 98
>partition back to its prior state using dd, but I'd like to try FreeDOS one
>more time. It seems that FreeDOS created a boot manager in the boot record of
>the Windows 98 partition, and I'd like to avoid that from happening, if at
>all possible.
> >>
> >>
> >> ----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Eric Auer<[email protected]>
> >> >To: [email protected]
> >> >Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Installing FreeDOS without
>the boot loader?
> >> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >> >Date: Monday, June 14, 2010 4:37 PM
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Hi Alain, Eric,
> >> >
> >> >> FreeDOS does not need anything from the Win98 partition to
>boot.
> >> > > The requisites are:
> >> >
> >> >> 1) it must boot from a primary partition
> >> >> 2) the partition needs to be active.
> >> >
> >> >Not really... Because you use GRUB, it is enough if you have
> >> >a valid boot sector in a FILE. Our SYS can make such files,
> >> >without actually SYSing your partition. So Windows stays as
> >> >it is, and you give the file to GRUB as the chainloader. You
> >> >just state the filename instead of the "+1" to make the DOS
> >> >menu item, which for the rest is a copy of the Windows one.
> >> >
> >> >Example GRUB menu.lst snippet - GRUB 2 might differ a bit:
> >> >
> >> ># on /dev/sda1
> >> >title FreeDOS
> >> >root (hd0,0)
> >> ># savedefault
> >> >chainloader /freedos.bot
> >> >
> >> ># on /dev/sda1
> >> >title Windows
> >> >root (hd0,0)
> >> ># savedefault
> >> >chainloader +1
> >> >
> >> >To make this work, you generate a freedos.bot file in the
> >> >root directory of the C: drive of Windows, using our SYS:
> >> >
> >> >sys c: c:\freedos.bot bootonly
> >> >
> >> >The "bootonly" stops SYS from copying kernel.sys and
> >> >command.com of FreeDOS to C: - instead, you can copy
> >> >our kernel.sys to the root directory of C: manually.
> >> >
> >> >Do NOT copy command.com to that place! You might mix
> >> >it with the Windows one otherwise. Instead, put it
> >> >in a separate directory, for example c:\freedos\ :-)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Note that SYS cannot (as far as I remember) make good
> >> >boot sectors for non-primary partitions. However, if
> >> >you use e.g. my Linux oriented "sys-freedos.pl", you
> >> >can add manual correction to boot even non-primary.
> >> >
> >> >Because this "micro howto" explains how to make FreeDOS
> >> >share the primary C: partition with Windows, you do not
> >> >need to worry about non-primary. SYS works fine with a
> >> >partition where Windows 98 can boot from. Note that XP
> >> >is a different story - NTFS partitions are not for DOS.
> >> >
> >> >Now you are almost ready to boot FreeDOS via GRUB. You
> >> >will probably want that Windows and DOS do _not_ share
> >> >the same config.sys, and luckily FreeDOS makes it easy
> >> >for you: Simply create a file fdconfig.sys in the root
> >> >directory of C: and put your DOS configuration there.
> >> >FreeDOS will only read config.sys if it cannot find a
> >> >fdconfig.sys file... You can even keep your autoexec
> >> >bat separate as well. For that, your fdconfig.sys must
> >> >have a shell line similar to this:
> >> >
> >> >SHELL=C:\freedos\command.com C:\freedos /E:1024
>/P=C:\freedos\start.
> >> >bat
> >> >
> >> >The "start" bat file in the freedos directory is now
> >> >used in the same way as you would normally use the
> >> >autoexec batch file. With those tricks, you keep all
> >> >the FreeDOS configuration and boot files separately
> >> >from the Windows ones. You only add three files to the
> >> >root directory (kernel.sys, fdconfig.sys, freedos.bot)
> >> >which are not in the way for Windows, and put all other
> >> >FreeDOS files in your freedos directory.
> >> >
> >> >When you install more parts of FreeDOS, you often have
> >> >a directory structure where the main directory is for
> >> >example "c:\fdos" and programs are in "c:\fdos\bin"...
> >> >
> >> >For a somewhat newer floppy image (actually up to three
> >> >depending on how much you want) with updated FreeDOS
> >> >software, check http://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/
> >> >(you can also download zips instead of images if you
> >> >simply want the files and do not use actual floppies)
> >> >
> >> >> Notice the makeactive command that changes the active
>partition
> >> >> on-the-fly. But you will still need both to be primary
>partitions, only
> >> >> a few programs can achieve this, sorry but I don't remember
>which,
> >> >> probably PartedMagic<http://partedmagic.com/> is ok. (it
>can move
> >> >> partitions too)
> >> >
> >> >Sounds complicated ;-)
> >> >
> >> >Cheers, Eric
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 20:46:15 +1000
From: Jim Lemon <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Zorland/Zortech C compiler?
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On 05/28/2010 11:49 PM, Alain Mouette wrote:
>
> I use Borland C 3.1 regularly on FreeDOS... have you tryed to configure
> the the lib directories in the IDE?
>
Hi Alain,
Yes, I set the directories and for some reason when I try to compile,
the IDE reports that it "can't open XXX.lib" when I know that the
libraries are all there. However, the same files compile fine on an
ancient laptop that still has the 0.9 (?) version of FreeDOS. Of course
I don't really want to depend on the old laptop, for it is really slow,
and if it dies, I'm up the creek. I'm going to try to copy the libraries
into the directory in which I'm compiling (blush) just to see if I can
get some work done.
Jim
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