On 11/03/2013 11:38 PM, Rugxulo wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:13 AM, John R. Sowden
> <jsow...@americansentry.net> wrote:
>> got a 'distribution disk' of freedos
> Where? Which version? What files?
> I think I got it at the FD site. Its the fat32 version. file is
>> , ran the sys command.
> To / from what? Floppy? Hard drive?
> read the batch. ran sys on the floppy with no arg (defaults to a:) It
> didnot like installing onto itself. The ran sys c:. This was after playing
> a bit, as I have hot data on the drive.
>> copied it from the net to a floppy using ubuntu 13.10
> Assuming the floppy is intact, I guess that would work with dd (or
> similar) if the media size is the same.
> 1.4mb floppy. I have never used any of the other formats to get more stuff
> on the fd.
>> put it in a 486 24MB windows 98 computer with the windows programs
>> removed and the MSDOS 7.10 and 4dos in place, with a network.
> I assume here that you mean you're replacing MS-DOS with FreeDOS. Was
> there a particular reason for this, some specific program that
> wouldn't run or some other restriction?
> That is correct. Reason: get away from MS, use fat32, use 4dos, hopefully my
> usb drivers on another computer will work on this one.
>> A few issues:
>> Freedos did not like 'sys'ing to the floppy that it resides on, so I
>> could boot into freedos,
Error copying command.com to itself.
What did it say exactly? Did you try a different physical floppy disk?
"sys a: c:"? Anyways, you can always boot FreeDOS via other means, hence
allowing you to still read / write via FreeDOS on an optional basis.
(Heck, the "MS-DOS 8" embedded within DISKCOPY.DLL that you can still
write to floppy via Windows explorer [tested on Win7] has no SYS.COM
command at all.)
>> running the ver command shows MD DOS version 7.10. I don't know if
>> MSDOS is still there or if this is a compatibility issue. I'd sure like
>> it to say freedos, if it is.
> The shell may misunderstand, who knows. But "normally" (although I
> haven't used MS-DOS / Win9x in a few years) I wouldn't expect it to
> say "MS-DOS" unless it was in fact MS-DOS. Though indeed the FAT32
> version of FreeDOS by default always claims to be version 7.10.
This is the fat32 version. Too bad fd does not promote itself in the
> Well, the obvious answer is to check (or clean) your root directory.
> If there's only KERNEL.SYS and maybe COMMAND.COM, it's definitely
> I run lean and mean. no io.sys, no msdos.sys. The only reason command.com
> is there is because
(a) freedos diagnostics, and come programs look for it. Unfortunately
foxpro 2.6 looks for the ms version of command.com in order to use the
run command (run a dos prog from inside fpd).
>> Running the defrag program (freedos version) only allowed me to do a
>> 'quickie'. the real options were grayed out. I have a little dos stuff
>> (about 130mb) in the middle of this huge 4.3 gb drive. I releived the
>> drive of its win98 burden. I want the dos at the beginning, and the
>> unused 'wiped', as the program suggests.
> only 1 partition. remember I got rid of the win98 stuff, so the dos stuff is
> sittin in the middle per the defrag program. I re-ran it, and got the same
> results (insanity?) FAT32. the only partition is active :)
Literally in the middle of the partition? How many partitions do you
have? FAT16? FAT32? Primary? Active? When you say 4.3 GB, I assume you
mean physical drive, not just partition.
>> Freedos complains that my last drive is not high enough.
> Where? At bootup? When running a specific program? Yea, during boot. I just
> added lastrivehigh=j (the 10th drive) now it doesn't complain.
>> It runs, but it stops and waits for a <return>. This will confuse my secty
> I assume you mean "secretary"? Sounds like a time crunch, ugh, sorry
> if this isn't more helpful. no wait now-sh'ell nevr know she not running
> msdos, except for the win98 logo that comes up when booting DOS (not win98)
> go figure.
> Hmmm, you don't mean prompt for date + time do you? It always does
> that (IIRC) if no AUTOEXEC.BAT is found. I have a autoexec.bat. for the
> last 20 years, I have it run another program with the good stuf in it (4dos
> compiled). autoexec,.at is unprotected, of the install programs can trash
> it. I go back find what the want to do, fix my other program if necessary
> (usually not) and edit the autoexec.bat command bacl to @startdos.bat
>> I run a network called "little big lan" (love it). It has a
>> program to set the last drive called netunits. I have it set to 10.
>> This computer has a floppy, a hd, and a cd. No more. 10 has been enough
>> for msdos 7.1 for the last decade. Raising it to 12 had no effect.
> You mean LASTDRIVE in CONFIG.SYS? No, it sounds like "netunits" (never
> heard of it). I'm far from experienced in networking, esp. old MS-DOS
> LAN stuff, but the normal way to increase drives is via LASTDRIVE.
> Though that's fairly common, so I assume you tried that. But that's
> all I can think of (and obviously that only uses letters, not
> numbers). Maybe you meant FILES? Nah, doubt it.
> yes-last drive in config.sys netunits is a program in little big lan.
>> John (wordstar 5.5 and foxpro/dos forever!)
> "Just use Li..." ... Sorry, got carried away there. ;-)
Pssssst; I've been using Linux since the mid nineties. Been with ubuntu
> now for about 5 years. I'm waiting for a "foxpro for linux". There are lots
> of db back ends, but the front end is lacking. If I ever get the time and
> patience, I trying gambas.
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