> On Dec 27, 2016, at 8:00 AM, Wolfgang ANdreas Heisele <aheis...@web.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I am new to freedos and got to this mailing list through this youtube video:

Welcome.

>  
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0sP1VAo0D8
>  
> Where I wrote the follwing question:
>  
> Nice video.

:-)

> I got that far, but I was really looking into whether one could use freedos 
> to format a harddisc and put freedos and kolibri os alongside. Got into some 
> problems with the last part. First kolibrios.org download is 7z format so I 
> got to download and install 7zip but it complained about wrong format.

There is also a version of 7zip on the FreeDOS 1.2 Release. It is not on the 
LITE version and is not installed automatically with either LITE/FULL package 
set. However you can easily install it using FDIMPLES. 

> Than I realized that freedos as dos only supports 32bit fat not vfat which 
> would be needed to put the kolibrios folder on and to boot the kolibrios.img. 
> Is there a disc formating tool for freedos which supports making partitions 
> with that kind of format and would it than be possible to copy over the 
> kolibrios folder?

There are a couple of partition utilities. And a version of good old fdisk is 
provided. It can create partitions for FreeDOS larger than 2GB. 

> Final goal would be to make a how to get freedos onto a blank system format 
> and install it download latest kolibri os version and get it to boot from the 
> harddisc (not from the disc image) and use a partition with the rest off the 
> kolibri os applications on it.
>  
> I am active on kolibrios.org a small assembler written os. It is not a final 
> product and therefore has no installer yet. One can use the disc image to 
> boot from or (the better option) make a bootable partition and put the 
> kolibrios.img and the extra applications into a kolibrios folder. Over the 
> years this was the main thing newbies complained about. That is why I am 
> searching for a way to to use some third party software to make a easier 
> howto.

Sounds like a good idea. In my opinion, many new users just give up and move on 
when they run into issues.

> I got to the point where I can run freedos and than encountered the problem 
> that I could not unzip the latest kolibri os 7z file with the needed files. I 
> than realized that dos does not support the bigger partition size than 2000 
> MBs and the greater letter count than 8.3.

FreeDOS does support larger partition sizes. However, the if the FreeDOS 
installer needs to partition the drive and can do it safely without user 
interaction, it auto-partitions the drive using fdisk. When fdisk automatically 
partitions, it just creates 2GB partitions. Probably for backwards 
compatibility.

FreeDOS also has a couple packages that provided Long File Name support. DOSLFN 
and LFNDOS. 

> Is there a way to partition a second hdd partition like e.g. windows xp would 
> do (vfat) from within freedos and get the files from the 7zip onto that. 
> Booting the kolibrios.img should be possible with syslinux memdisk or the dos 
> bootloader from kolibri os.
>  
> Anyway, great work you did on freedos! Getting it up and running with network 
> support in virtualbox was easy!

Thank you
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