On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:54 PM, Karen Lewellen
<klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
> All I can contribute to this discussion is that yahoogroups, many of them,
> still exist. I am a member of several getting posts  from them each day.

I'm on several myself.  The question is how long they will *continue* to exist.

> However, I do not subscribe using either a yahoo or  aol e-mail, and never
> had one from Verizon.

Affected folks were Verizon subscribers with verizon.net addresses.

> those I know with yahoo e-mails began changing after the last major hack a
> few weeks back.

Yahoo had been hacked repeatedly.  The price Verizon paid to acquire
them dropped after due diligence revealed the full extent of the

Reports about the most recent hack were revealed in December 2016, but
were unclear about when the breaches actually took place,  (It's the
sort of thing that can remain unnoticed till rather after it actually
takes place.  The damage was likely already done.)

> It is interesting that Verizon is getting out of the e-mail business, since
> such  communications are a part of their sell phones.

That's not quite what's happening.  As mentioned, Verizon owns AOL.
Verizon itself just wants to provide connectivity, through their
cellular and FIOS services.  It doesn't want to provide content served
by their connectivity.  Effectively, they are transferring email
provisioning to a wholly owned subsidiary who is in that business.
Verizon sees no need to duplicate something AOL does, and is simply
trying to hand it off to AOL.  (My suspicion is that Gmail is more
likely to be the email service Verizon users with switch to.  Changing
to a new provider is a regal pain, and Verizon users are not happy
about being told they have to.)

> While I can imagine they will want to dump yahoo e-mail, the hack was quite
> extensive, I personally feel they may try to save yahoogroups, it is a
> positive working generally well, at least for those not reading on yahoo.

Possible.  It's all about the money.  What does it cost to provision
and maintain Yahoo Groups?  What will Verizon *make* from the service?

Like any other big outfit, Verizon management has a fiduciary
responsibility to invest corporate funds in things that provide the
highest return.  (And management can be sued by shareholders who think
they *aren't* doing so.)  I've seen corporate divisions folded because
while the operation was profitable, it wasn't profitable *enough*.

Verizon may keep Yahoo Groups active (but change the name as part of
the re-branding.)  I'm just not making any bets on it.

> Just my take,
> Kare

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