From: Dale E Sterner <>

I installed win 7 on a laptop to see what it could do but not to
use it. The laptop doesn't have an internet connection so had
to use the phone  Install it. I installed software that I
bought to
see what it  would do on win 7. Alot of of message boxes came
up giving me 24 hours to reactive or it would shut down forever.
I left the test software on being affraid that if I removed it, it would
do it again. Win 7 is now on my junk software list.


On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 17:06:59 -0400 dmccunney <>
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Dale E Sterner <>
> wrote:
> > With windows if your PC dies and you want to move
> > to a dupicate and keep running - your out of luck.
> Not really.  Been there, done that.
> On my old, built-from components PC, I moved XP several times.  I
> made
> changes to the underlying system and Windows wanted to
> reauthenticate.
> The time before last, online authentication failed, and I wound up
> speaking to a Microsoft rep. His concern was solely that I wasn't
> trying to run the *same* copy of Windows on more than one machine at
> a
> time.  "Nope.  Same physical machine.  I had a hardware failure and
> had to get a new motherboard."  He got me authenticated.
> The next time I had to do so, online authentication worked with no
> issues - MS had made changes to the online authentication site, and
> whatever made it fail before no longer bit.
> > Windows ability to detect small changes is amazing -
> > it just wants to stop.
> Windows has an intimate relationship with the hardware.  It *is* an
> OS.  If you *make* hardware changes, it will notice.  Whether it
> wants
> to stop will depend on the hardware you changed.  Video cards, hard
> drives, and RAM shouldn't cause a problem.  Motherboard changes
> will.
> As far as Windows is concerned, that's a new machine.
> > Win 7 is such a pain to deal with I think even DOS could beat it.
> I've run Win7, and can't agree.  I was quite happy with Win7.  These
> days, I run Win10, and I'm generally pleased with it.  (I run the
> Pro
> version in both cases.)
> It follows the "every *other* release of Windows is decent" pattern.
> I avoided Vista like the plague, but was happy with Win7.  I avoided
> 8.1 but am generally pleased with Win10.
> Of course, I have the hardware to properly support it, and know what
> I'm doing.
> The current desktop is a replacement for a failed older one.  The
> older one came with Win7, and I upgraded to Win10.  I'd done that on
> three laptops with no issues.  The desktop was "new and different
> Win10 BSODs - collect the whole set!", and I was.  The new machine
> is
> rock solid and stable, but it's also faster and more powerful
> hardware.  My conclusion was that the older machine could run Win7
> but
> wasn't really up to Win10, even though it would install without
> issues.  (One annoying quirk was that it was a quad-core machine but
> Win10 only saw two cores.  The Xeon CPU is used wasn't on the
> "supported by Win10 list Intel maintains.  The i5-2400 in the new
> box
> is, and Win10 sees and uses all four cores.)
> Something like that happened in the Win Vista days.  MS wanted
> everyone on Vista, but some of the hardware in the pipeline wasn't
> really up to running it.  (Mostly, inadequate video.)  MS created a
> new level of certification - Vista Capable - so hardware vendors
> could
> put it on the box.  Jim Allchin, who was SVP in charge of Windows
> development at the time, was livid.  He felt, correctly, that the
> hardware would not provide a good experience for users and that MS
> would get yet another black eye in the marketplace.  MS really
> should
> have waited 6 months for a new generation of hardware that would
> properly support Vista, but wanted to make XP go away.
> > Every time I install new software it wants to be
> > reauthenticated.
> Win7?  That never happened here.  Are you sure it got properly
> authenticated in the first place?
> What new software triggers a request for reauthentication?
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