Hi, On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 3:52 AM, Gregg Eshelman via Freedos-user <email@example.com> wrote: > > What do these "Jack's Drivers" actually do?
Waste everyone's time. (Just use Linux Linux Linux Linux Linux ...!) (further response to Eric Auer inlined below) > On Friday, November 17, 2017, 1:59:11 AM MST, Eric Auer <e.a...@jpberlin.de> > wrote: > > Hi Rugxulo, Saluton, > you are not going to make Jack any more kind by publicly > sharing all private email details of your private fight... How is it "private"? He publicly posts all kinds of rude things. The only reason we ever had "private" email is mostly because he didn't want to stay subscribed to freedos-user all the time (too much noise). Oh, and also because later he couldn't even do that at all. Hence the whole nasty May 16 (2015) private email that I never responded to (since he'd already said, falsely, that he would go away). There was no personal rapport between us. We never discussed anything but boring technical software. We never discussed religion or politics, and we never had a falling out. It's an accident that I know literally anything about his personal life since we never discussed things like that either. Sure, he's obsessively angry about you-know-what-worldwide-event (that ended before he was born), but who cares? I'm too young to care (or brood) about that. And it's not fair (obviously) to punish innocent people (who also weren't born yet) with rage about that either. Not to beat a dead horse, but yes, when he constantly harps on it (and even directs such specific insults to me), it's very annoying and immature. I'm trying to be somewhat discreet here (especially because it sounds ludicrous to even believe it, and I don't want to rile anyone up), but he definitely harbors resentment. And FreeDOS is not immune to such members. > Jack does update drivers because he is a perfectionist, What good is a perfect painting if no one will see it? Why bake a gourmet meal and then throw it away? > but he is also known for not liking the FreeDOS community Who did nothing bad to him. > (including in particular you) Even more ridiculous, I spent dozens of hours trying to help him, and he knew it! And all it takes to piss him off is literally one innocuous sentence to someone else: "Mar-18 won't boot on my Lenovo desktop" (but here's a URL to download that exact version yourself if you want to try it). > so it is no surprise Really?? You think the proper reaction to this dispute was, "Well, obviously I have to go closed source and insult everyone. (Obviously! Obviously! Yes sir, obviously!)" > that he fails to make nice announcements, share sources, etc. > ... which is why almost everybody here stopped to care. He literally gains nothing by being closed source. If there is zero advantage, then why do it? I can only surmise one or two possible theories, but each one involves disregarding his public excuse entirely (as a flatout lie) and pretending that he "needs" it to be closed for xyz advantage. (Which is a stretch, and I don't believe it's true, but I guess anything's possible.) > I, too found it a bit silly that there even was a license, > and for a while even code, for preventing FreeDOS use of > the drivers. FreeDOS has been low on volunteers for a long time. But it works remarkably well. I like it a lot, obviously. So it's strange to see someone kick us while we're down, so to speak. I'd almost consider it rude to suggest Linux on such a forum, but Linux is so popular and does so much (and is Free and ...). Does he not realize that decreasing DOS functionality pushes away the few that are left? Does he want us to go to Linux or Windows or ... ? Doubt it, he despises them, and yet he despises us too. > The "hack" problem was for one of the closed > source releases: Somebody used a debugger to deobfuscate > that driver to remove machine code which had deliberately > made the driver unusable on FreeDOS. You cannot STEAL free > software indeed but you can upset authors by spoiling their > ability to upset users :-p So yes, you can call it a HACK. > Note that this was many years ago, long forgotten by many. Was it ever made public? AFAIK, no. And BTW, even back then we still had "old" versions of his drivers. Seriously, he's had hundreds of versions of these by now (or at least several branches / renames). It's not that hard to find some old version. > So what should I say? We already know everything about the situation. Obviously, we don't, because people keep repeating the same old misinformation. I'm just saying, *to me*, as someone who is unfairly in the middle of this (for no good reason), it's irrational. Jack needs to wake up, grow up, get a grip. > There is no point in reiterating again and again > that fights between humans keep machines from enjoying nice > drivers here, as this is not going to change that anyway. Software is very logical, deterministic. The cpu doesn't randomly get mad and stop working because you didn't compliment it enough. Look, Eric, I already told you (almost) two years ago that I could "prove" that his "Mar-18" drivers didn't work on my Lenovo desktop. And I even publicly posted the photos and .ZIP (binaries + sources). After all, his whole claim against us is that my one sentence was false. So obviously he would correct his error and open sources again, if I proved he was wrong. So why didn't he do it? Is he too dumb? Is he too stubborn? Or was he just full of it the whole time? I don't know, but I tried. I really tried to solve the situation. I know you think I'm being rude or pedantic, rehashing it over and over again, but he never goes away! He keeps saying he will, but he never does! Seriously, I'm not going to apologize to him when I did *nothing* to him! It's not like I'm asking *him* to grovel to us, but he needs to be honest (with himself and others)! Honesty is a virtue. Tell the truth, Jack! Stop portraying everyone else as an enemy when nobody did anything to you! (Sigh. Just use Linux. DOSEMU + FreeDOS works fine. C'mon, Jack's drivers require 386+ anyways!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Freedos-user mailing list Freedosfirstname.lastname@example.org https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user