Rather* grim. I hate autocorrect.

czw., 26 wrz 2019, 16:15 użytkownik R Moog <moog...@gmail.com> napisał:

> I agree but here's a reality check. The outlook is father grim and we
> won't live until the copyright expires. From copyright.gov, works created
> after 1978 have their copyright expired 70 years after the death of its
> author. In case of Windows ME, we're looking at all the devs croaking,
> Microsoft dissolving and then 70 years of waiting unless we're in for a
> near future apocalypse scenario.
>
> Amiga scene pretty much showcases the nightmarish hellscape of copyright
> law. There is always someone somewhere out there that owns a piece of the
> whole thing and will sue for lulz.
>
> czw., 26 wrz 2019, 16:04 użytkownik Michael C Robinson <
> mich...@robinson-west.com> napisał:
>
>>
>> Quoting andrew fabbro <and...@fabbro.org>:
>>
>> > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 6:36 AM Michael C Robinson <
>> > mich...@robinson-west.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Is it possible to get the source code to Windows 9x and ME since
>> >> Microsoft isn't supporting it anymore?
>> >> One would want to get the source code and then open source it of
>> >> course.  Even Windows 3.1 and Windows 3.11 is closed source.  Surely,
>> >> Microsoft could release pre 9x Windows?  It wouldn't hurt Microsoft at
>> >> all since Windows
>> >> is squarely NT based now where many modern systems won't even support
>> >> DOS let alone DOS based Windows.  I realize it would probably be very
>> >> expensive to get Microsoft to cough up the source code, but has anyone
>> >> even looked into this?
>> >>
>> >
>> > "It wouldn't hurt Microsoft" is not exactly a true statement.
>> >
>> > Major reasons MSFT won't be releasing source code like that:
>> >
>> > (1) Some components are still in use.  Microsoft does not rewrite their
>> OS
>> > from scratch with each new version and while Windows 10 is very
>> different
>> > than Windows Me, it's still an x86 OS.
>> >
>> > (2) There may be pieces they licensed or are under others' copyrights.
>> > Sorting that out is non-trivial.  This is true especially of things like
>> > drivers.
>> >
>> > (3) Source code often reveals the inner workings of companies and
>> > products.  It's not unusual to see things like "we put this in because
>> our
>> > other product has a bug and we have to compensate" and comments like
>> that.
>> > Not to mention profanity :-)
>> >
>> > (4) Many times old source code hides other embarrassing (or
>> > semi-embarrassing) secrets.  There was a leak of Windows 2000 many years
>> > ago and I read that it had comments such as "(some app) breaks here so
>> we
>> > put in this workaround to maintain compatibility with previous
>> versions".
>> > This would inevitably lead to all kinds of press about favoring
>> different
>> > vendors, etc.
>> >
>> > (5) And the big one...where's the money in releasing old source code?
>> It
>> > takes lawyers, tech people, etc. and likely would cost a fair amount of
>> > money just to package it up.
>> >
>> > BTW, Microsoft has (or at least at one time had) various programs where
>> > universities had access to the source code, but that was under NDA.
>> >
>> > --
>> > andrew fabbro
>> > and...@fabbro.org
>>
>> ReactOS won't replace Windows 9x/ME because it is not dos based.
>> Originally the target was 9x, but they gave up on that :-(  For stuff
>> that isn't supported anymore but should be, surely all the players
>> could come together and release source code.  Frankly, I think it
>> should be the law that you have to release source code if you stop
>> supporting a popular OS.  Aren't some of the licenses pushing 20 years
>> now?
>>
>>
>>
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