Hi, thank you. That comment on Phil's video by Lukas Satin - that's me.

Phil has even FreeDOS starter pack, but it is for FreeDOS 1.2. I tried it.
The driver VIDECDD is not working at all. It will not find my CD-ROM drive.
Perhaps because 486 bios cannot find the CDROM. But driver such as MSCDEX
or SHSUCDX will find the drive.

Yes, he mentions that a lot of games will fail because they cannot find a
CD drive at all. And this must be something specific to FreeDOS (I think it
can be driver for CD or EMM386).

You know I spent last 3 days with FreeDOS, trying to make it work. I don't
think I'm impatient. We spent one day here and I did not have any solution
or a possible solution. Therefore I will try hack my way around. Copy
MSCDEX and EMM386. If that won't work, I will format the drive and install
Windows 95.

PS: CD Audio was fixed in Freedos 1.3 RC2 thanks to updated UDVD2 driver
and I use XT-IDE custom BIOS attached on Realtek NIC. That allows to
unlimited disk size (limited only by filesystem, 8TB for FAT32).

I would copy few files, I think users are not lazy. But see, I'm a software
developer, have a lot of other stuff to do and this is my hobby. I even
took a vacation this week to solve stuff like this. Because I won auction
with 15 retro gaming PCs after someone's brother deceased. And it was whole
weekend for me with only FreeDOS installation crashing because of out of
memory. Then other stuff and now I see the compatibility with MY  MS-DOS
software that I need to test is like 50%. I feel like in the old days, when
you could install Redhat Linux on 486 and play DOOM there, but nothing
else. I think FreeDOS is a little bit like Redhat 20 years ago. It is a
little bit better of course, but still feels more like Unix system than
native DOS system.

You see how many subscribers and views Phil has. There are others like this
on Youtube. Everyone from time to time tries FreeDOS for gaming hoping that
this time it will be more modern and efficient solution for this type of
use. Every discussion ends that it does not work and it is not worth it.
And I think end of our discussion will be similar.

This is a long term problem. I know open source is difficult and you don't
have time to watch social media, what people say about FreeDOS. If there
would be some Patreon or Kickstarter campaign to support FreeDOS
development and these particular use cases would get focus, I would not
hesitate to donate some money. Because it cost me time and a lot of users
are unhappy. And I see this could be so good system. I would even accept
the fact that developers will not spend time with corner cases
compatibility, if there is some proven solution with copying a few original
MS-DOS files to FreeDOS. I will try it tomorrow. But it's just a hit or
miss situation and I did not find any help about this step.

Thank you and have a nice rest of the day.
Lukas

On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 11:04 PM Michał Dec <moog...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  >Not sure why Michał mentions Yamaha YMF724
>
> I've lots of issues with this card. Shame on me for not getting a
> motherboard with ISA slots.
>
>  >No idea why Michał is so negative about our HIMEM and EMM386 versions
> and even our filesystem checking and repair tools
>
> A lot of games I tried with JEMM386/JEMMEX had some really jarring
> issues. They varied from the game gracefully crashing to outright raping
> my ears or gradually eroding FAT away. FreeDOS' own FAT repair tools
> couldn't help me. Only nuking everything and re-installing and
> re-configuring everything. At this point I've included a special GRUB
> entry that uses a Linux distro coupled with a custom init script to fix
> my FDOS partition. I lost a lot of time and mental wellbeing on these
> issues so it's really no surprise I'd rather live in a world where the
> sources of my problems do not exist, can't hurt me anymore, and can't
> hurt others.
>
> W dniu 01.06.2021 o 15:17, Eric Auer pisze:
> > Hi Lukas,
> >
> >> Please help with solution, don't waste time with asking why and why
> > You will have to ask specific questions when you want
> > specific answers. If you want to visit your uncle, it
> > does not help to tell your taxi driver "bring me to
> > my uncle, do not ask me where he lives" either ;-)
> >
> > You will not have to "hack your way around", you simply
> > have to patiently describe the problem so we can give
> > answers which fit the problem, too.
> >
> > You mentioned that UDVD2 is outdated. Updates are here:
> > http://mercurycoding.com/downloads.html#DOS
> >
> > I certainly agree with Michał that FDNET should be there,
> > as far as network driver licensing permits distribution.
> > For the rest, we should offer vendor download links.
> >
> > Not sure why Michał mentions Yamaha YMF724 drivers, do
> > you have a Sound Blaster 16? Or do you have a sound card
> > based on Yamaha YMF724? Which sound card do you two have?
> >
> > As Michał already said: If your game has a problem with
> > our brand of EMM386, simply try without EMM386. Easier
> > than hoping for MS EMM386 to work better, which may or
> > may not be the case :-)
> >
> > Also, in the unlikely case that your game even has some
> > problem with our HIMEM, you can use XMGR instead, same
> > download link mentioned above.
> >
> > No idea why Michał is so negative about our HIMEM and
> > EMM386 versions and even our filesystem checking and
> > repair tools. Actually FreeDOS includes DOSFSCK which
> > is the same tool which you would also use in Linux :-p
> > The Linux DOSFSCK version is updated more often, though.
> >
> > I disagree with Michał about completely avoiding parts
> > of MS DOS. I kept QBASIC from MS DOS for quite a while,
> > as far as I remember. Now there is the big FreeBASIC.
> >
> > Of course this is no option when you have no license for
> > MS DOS, but even if you have one, MS DOS is extremely old
> > and for many components, the FreeDOS versions are better.
> >
> > Cheers, Eric
> >
> >
> >
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