Well said. :)
Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Sunday, March 17th, 2024 at 8:57 PM, Ben Collver via Freedos-user <freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2024 19:26:05 +0100 > > From: tom ehlert t...@drivesnapshot.de > > To: "Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS." > > freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Coding in BASIC for Freedos? > > > > > On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 6:26 AM Liam Proven via Freedos-user > > > freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > > > [..] > > > > > > > There are good reasons that DOS went away some 35 years ago. It has > > > > its uses but not being able to flip to another window or another > > > > screen to consult documentation, or try something out, or look it up > > > > online, is a massive handicap. > > > > +1 > > > This is an example of limited imagination. In this day and age it is > common for people to use their phone to take a photo of an error message > for troubleshooting. The idea that someone is stuck on a single > dedicated computer in a vacuum without any other technology available > is very retro indeed. It can be both, or something in between, or just > for fun. > > Even when DOS was still commercially produced, professional developers > often preferred to do their development on another operating system. > Many classic DOS games were developed using more powerful systems. > This includes originals like Zork. They used DOS as their runtime. > > But before they became professional developers, while they were still > learning, they probably used all kinds of gross technologies, and > wrote shoddy code, and probably had fun along the way. > > > Nope. AFAICT it's a person wanting to learn programming; no mentioning of > > FreeDOS. > > > If it isn't FreeDOS related, then is it off-topic on this mailing list? > > There's a lot of snobbery in the programming world. A famous expert > declared that students who learned to program on BASIC were ruined > forever. It's all too easy to debate a dead person, but i would > respond "Whew! Now the pressure is off." Since i am ruined forever > as a programmer, now i get to have fun. I don't have to take myself > too seriously. > > > I fail to see the advantage. > > > Your failure of imagination is not helping this person. > > If i were wanting to tinker with BASIC on DOS, I'd probably start > with QBASIC.EXE because there has been so much written about it. > Once i got the hang of that, then i'd graduate to something free. > > Here are some links. I hope they help. > > BASIC Techniques And Utilities Book: > http://ethanwiner.com/fullmoon.html > > > Programmed Lessons in QBasic > https://chortle.ccsu.edu/QBasic/index.html > > > QB Express Magazine & Tutorials > http://www.petesqbsite.com/sections/express/express.shtml > > > QBasic 1.1 Web-based, runs in a web browser > https://archive.org/details/msdos_qbasic_megapack > > > QBasic 1.1 Download > <https://web.archive.org/web/20060101175728/ > http://download.microsoft.com/download/ > win95upg/tool_s/1.0/W95/EN-US/olddos.exe> > > > -Ben > > > _______________________________________________ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user _______________________________________________ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
