"Steve White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> • The older glyphs for the quote characters (i.e., ', ", ", ') are
>> much nicer for a screen font. It would be nice to be able to get
>> the old glyphs somehow.
By the way, by the last sentence I meant “it would be nice if there
was some way to select the older glyphs without changing the default
glyphs for these characters”.
> It seems to me that yours is an aesthetic judgement about the shapes
> of the glyphs. On second look, I agree. My "curly" quotes look out
> of place in this face.
> The standard specifies that the glyphs should be distinct from certain
> other glyphs, but their shape is only suggested.
Actually (unfortunately), it turns out there are some fairly specific
guidelines about the shape of these characters.
I like the old freefont shapes from 2003-06-24 better, but the person
who made the bug report about German use of “ (U+201C LEFT DOUBLE
QUOTATION MARK) and ‘ (U+2018 LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK) seems to be
As evidence for their correctness, here are the entries in the
official NamesList.txt file:
2018 LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK
= SINGLE TURNED COMMA QUOTATION MARK
* this is the preferred glyph (as opposed to 201B)
x (apostrophe - 0027)
x (modifier letter turned comma - 02BB)
x (heavy single turned comma quotation mark ornament - 275B)
201C LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK
= DOUBLE TURNED COMMA QUOTATION MARK
* this is the preferred glyph (as opposed to 201F)
x (quotation mark - 0022)
x (heavy double turned comma quotation mark ornament - 275D)
x (reversed double prime quotation mark - 301D)
Notice that both of these characters have alternate names that include
the wording “TURNED COMMA”. In the context of Unicode character
names, “TURNED” means “rotated 180°”.
The older freefont glyphs for these characters are actually much
closer to these other characters:
201B SINGLE HIGH-REVERSED-9 QUOTATION MARK
= SINGLE REVERSED COMMA QUOTATION MARK
* glyph variant of 2018
x (modifier letter reversed comma - 02BD)
201F DOUBLE HIGH-REVERSED-9 QUOTATION MARK
= DOUBLE REVERSED COMMA QUOTATION MARK
* glyph variant of 201C
In the context of Unicode character names, “REVERSED” means “vertical
mirror image (flipped on the vertical axis)”. The comments indicate
that the glyphs for U+201B and U+201F are considered wrong for U+2018
> In previous releases, the quote-left U2018 was just wrong. Since I
> think of these as "curly" quotes, I tried to make them curly, and
> distinct from "primes" (U2032+). But the standard doesn't say the
> quotes have to be distinct from the primes. I think cases where it
> would matter, would be very rare, and questionable.
I disagree on this point. I personally find it very important that
primes and quotes are distinct, because I use both heavily. (I'm a
> So basically, I put the shapes back as they were, like the comma in
> Mono, and just made sure the directions and senses of the quotes
> matched the standard.
> To appear in the next release.
Can you e-mail PNG images of what the changed glyphs look like?
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