On 09/05/2012 01:06 PM, Adam Tkac wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 01:02:35PM +0200, Jan Cholasta wrote:
>> Dne 5.9.2012 12:48, Martin Kosek napsal(a):
>>> On 09/05/2012 12:36 PM, Jan Cholasta wrote:
>>>> Dne 5.9.2012 12:22, Petr Spacek napsal(a):
>>>>> On 09/05/2012 11:30 AM, Jan Cholasta wrote:
>>>>>> Dne 5.9.2012 10:04, Martin Kosek napsal(a):
>>>>>>> We allowed IP addresses without network specification which lead
>>>>>>> to unexpected results when the zone was being created. We should rather
>>>>>>> strictly require the prefix/netmask specifying the IP network that
>>>>>>> the reverse zone should be created for. This is already done in
>>>>>>> Web UI.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A unit test exercising this new validation was added.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://fedorahosted.org/freeipa/ticket/2461
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't like this much. I would suggest using CheckedIPAddress and not
>>>>>> forcing
>>>>>> the user to enter the prefix length instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CheckedIPAddress uses a sensible default prefix length if one is not
>>>>>> specified
>>>>>> (class-based for IPv4, /64 for IPv6) as opposed to IPNetwork (/32 for
>>>>>> IPv4,
>>>>>> /128 for IPv6 - this causes the erroneous reverse zones to be created as
>>>>>> described in the ticket).
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't like automatic netmask guessing. I have met class-based guessing
>>>>> in Windows (XP?) and I was forced to overwrite default mask all the time
>>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> If there was no guessing, you would have to write the netmask anyway, so I
>>>> don't see any harm in guessing here.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> IMHO there is no "sensible default prefix" in real world. I sitting on
>>>>> network with /23 prefix right now. Also, I have never seen 10.x network
>>>>> with /8 prefix.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> While this might be true for IPv4 in some cases, /64 is perfectly sensible 
>>>> for
>>>> IPv6. Also, I have never seen 192.168.x.x network with non-/24 prefix.
>>>>
>>>> Honza
>>>>
>>>
>>> While this may be true for 192.168.x.x, it does not apply for 10.x.x.x 
>>> networks
>>> as Petr already pointed out. I don't think that there will be many people
>>> expecting that a reverse zone of 10.0.0.0/24 would be created.
>>
>> And they would be correct, because the default prefix length for a
>> class A network is /8, not /24.
>>
>>>
>>> And since FreeIPA is mainly deployed to internal networks, I assume this 
>>> will
>>> be the case of most users.
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>
>> OK, but what about IPv6? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the prefix
>> length is going to be /64 99% of the time for IPv6.
> 
> You are right, IPv6 networks could have default /64 prefix. However as I wrote
> in different mail, I don't recommend to use default IPv4 prefix at all because
> FreeIPA targets for company environments where /24 is not so common, not for
> home environments.

I think now most of us agree on that automatic prefixes does not make much
sense for IPv4. But do we really want to introduce different behavior in this
case for IPv4+IPv6 network validation and allow automatic prefix only for IPv6
only?

> 
>> The installer uses /24 for IPv4 addresses and /64 for IPv6
>> addresses, maybe this should be used as a default here as well.

Yeah, it would make sense to do this change also for installer to make them
consistent.

Martin

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