On 11/26/2012 02:15 PM, Loris Santamaria wrote:
> El vie, 16-11-2012 a las 14:35 -0500, Dmitri Pal escribió:
>> On 11/01/2012 10:00 AM, Loris Santamaria wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> we plan to write a freeIPA configuration plugin for Asterisk, aiming to
>>> be general and useful enough to be included in Fedora and EPEL, so we
>>> would like to have your input on some issues before we write any code.
>>>
>>> I wrote down the plans so far on this wiki page:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/sorbouc/sorbo/wiki/freeipa-asterisk
>>>
>>> Basically we would like to know if:
>>>
>>>       * It is ok to use cn=asterisk as the base object
>>>       * The planned DIT, separating object per type and not per site, is
>>>         ok
>>>       * The whole stuff of using CoS as a mechanism to apply default
>>>         values to every new object seems right
>>>
>>> Another issue is that Asterisk SIP objects in real life are generally
>>> associated with real people and with physical devices. 
>>>
>>> The physical devices are configured with a piece of software called the
>>> "endpoint manager", which could pull from the directory the data
>>> required to generate the IP phones configuration. We have to choices
>>> here. Store the IP phone extra data _with_ the Asterisk SIP object,
>>> adding a ieee802device objectClass to the asteriskSIPuser object. The
>>> other option is to store the ieee802device object separately in a more
>>> appropriate part of the IPA tree and have it reference the SIP object
>>> vía a "seeAlso" or "managedBy" attribute.
>>>
>>> As for linking SIP users to real people, it would be great to link the
>>> asteriskSIPuser object to an IPA user, but probably not all
>>> organizations interested in this kind of functionality for Asterisk
>>> would manage all of their users with IPA. What if the real user belongs
>>> to a trusted directory, for example? So it seems that for simplicity's
>>> sake we will have to store the name of the person using the phone in the
>>> asteriskSIPuser description attribute.
>>>
>>> Speaking of packaging, reading http://abbra.fedorapeople.org/guide.html
>>> it doesn't seems clear to me how to have an extra category of
>>> configuration pages added to the Web UI without modifying the main IPA
>>> page. What is the proper way to add extra pages to the web UI ?  
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for your input!
>>>
>> Hello Loris,
>>
>> Sorry for the delay.
>> I finally got a moment to read about Asterisk and looked into your plans.
>> Based on what you are proposing there is no real tight integration
>> between IPA identities and services provided by IPA and Asterisk. What I
>> see is IPA's DS would just be used as a data store for Asterisk
>> configuration data and it would be managed via CLI leveraging the plugin
>> framework we put together.  If such approach is interesting for a
>> customer I do not see a reason why it should not be done. I also do not
>> see a value of having such plugin as a part of the integrated IPA
>> supported offering. It is too independent and far from the core for us.
>> But it is definitely a starting point. It might change over time.
> Hi Dmitri, sorry for my late response, I was on vacation and just now
> resuming work on this plugin.
>
> I agree with you, this plugin while it could be useful to a number of
> sysadmins it is not really part of an identity management solution.
>
>> In future it might make sense to consider a different plugin that would
>> add schema to IPA users only and would allow users to have additional
>> Asterisk related attributes. I do not see a problem with user going into
>> IPA web UI self service to manage his personal voice mail box settings.
>> This seems like a logical operation. However it should be possible to
>> split Asterisk configuration information between IPA and some other LDAP
>> server or database. It might not make sense to pollute IPA with objects
>> and entries that do not have a good relation to what IPA is for. So the
>> best would be if Asterisk servers would be able to store user related
>> info in the identity management system like IPA while having the rest of
>> data about the infrastructure elsewhere. I do not know whether such
>> approach is possible or feasible from the Asterisk project point of
>> view. But if such extension for IPA users is in fact developed it has a
>> much better chance to become over time a part of optional but supported
>> portfolio of IPA plugins. No guarantees but at least such approach would
>> be much closer to the core of what IPA is.
> Ok this can be done, asterisk is very flexible in this respect, so the
> voice mail box information could be stored alongside the users'
> information.

I am not sure we are on the same page.
I suggested that *only* user related information will be in IPA and all
other objects not related to identities will be stored elsewhere.
Do you agree with such approach? It is not clear from your reply above.

>
>> We also took as stab at recommendations about writing such plugins.
>> The list of things to consider turned to be long and scary.
>> It is definitely a candidate for the external plugin development guide
>> or alike but we do not have time to spend cycles to create such a guide
>> now. We are still discussing how to better deliver this information to
>> FreeIPA community and potential plugin developers like you. Please stay
>> tuned.
> Thank you for your feedback!
>


-- 
Thank you,
Dmitri Pal

Sr. Engineering Manager for IdM portfolio
Red Hat Inc.


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