On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 15:35 -0400, Rob Crittenden wrote:
> My problem with systemd is that it seems to make things more opaque.
> It 
> is hard to do even simple things like an strace on process startup 
> because the shell is completely detached from execution. Which means 
> that your logging needs to be top-notch so when things go wrong we
> can 
> look somewhere and say "aha, it's X"

Actually with systemd logging has become easier.
All you need to do is spit stuff to stdout (of course you must avoid
closing stdout if the daemon does so as they used to do to cope with
sysv init madness :)


Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York

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