Simo Sorce wrote:
On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 15:35 -0400, Rob Crittenden wrote:
My problem with systemd is that it seems to make things more opaque.
is hard to do even simple things like an strace on process startup
because the shell is completely detached from execution. Which means
that your logging needs to be top-notch so when things go wrong we
look somewhere and say "aha, it's X"

Actually with systemd logging has become easier.
All you need to do is spit stuff to stdout (of course you must avoid
closing stdout if the daemon does so as they used to do to cope with
sysv init madness :)

Yes, it is a mixed bag. Doesn't replace the sweetness of strace /etc/init.d/service start to find startup permission issues. If your daemon doesn't log that it is failing because it can't open some file then you're in deep.


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