On 07/22/2013 08:38 AM, Petr Vobornik wrote:
> On 07/19/2013 11:19 PM, Dmitri Pal wrote:
>> On 07/19/2013 09:26 AM, Jan Pazdziora wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 03:17:49PM +0200, Petr Vobornik wrote:
>>>> Disclaimer: I have no strong feelings in this matter, it just looks
>>>> weird to me, so I'm OK with not doing it if it's general consensus.
>>>> Originally we wanted to do this change in
>>>> https://fedorahosted.org/freeipa/ticket/3569 but it was not done
>>>> because of string freeze.
>>>>
>>>> I guess you can add field suffix to every field from /etc/password
>>>> when you use it in a sentence but that doesn't necessary mean that
>>> You can. But gid exists as a concept beyond /etc/passwd. So does home
>>> directory. The GECOS field value does not, really.
>>>
>>>> it's its name. man 5 passwd doesn't use word 'field' next to GECOS
>>>> in fields description/list either. IMO our use case is the same.
>>> It says:
>>>
>>>     GECOS    This field (sometimes called the "comment field")
>>>         [...]
>>>         The gcos field in the password file was
>>>         [...]
>>>
>>>> Historically correct label would probably be 'GECOS identity' but
>>>> that's not usable today as it's purpose is more general.
>
>> Do we have tips in the UI?
> > May be we should add them in future to provide extra information about
> > meaning of the field or button.
>
> We do, but UX is not the best. 'doc' defined in .py files is displayed
> as a textbox tooltip. This feature is not apparent and for most of the
> fields the tooltip is the same as label.
>
> There is an idea to display a question mark icon next to textboxes to
> draw an attention to a presence of the doc text and provide it in a
> tooltip.
>
> I like the way how it's done in Alchemy UI:
> http://www.ui-alchemy.org/form You can notice there an additional
> information (string length limitation, example...) when field is focused.
>
> I went through open tickets and found few which touches the topic:
> - https://fedorahosted.org/freeipa/ticket/2912 [RFE] [Web UI] Use doc
> as field's tooltip instead of label
>     * Seems to be already implemented.
> - https://fedorahosted.org/freeipa/ticket/2413 [RFE]: add in UI
> examples of what is the requested field
> - https://fedorahosted.org/freeipa/ticket/3661 [RFE] IPA Web UI: When
> adding new reverse zone in DNS there could be an example of expected
> address format
>     * Looks like duplicate of #2413
>
> IMO we should close #2413 and maybe #2912 or change #2912 to cover the
> above mentioned proposals (in case of agreement).
>
>> For now I think GECOS would probably be good enough.
>> Adding "field" makes it more precise but looks weird.
>>
>
>
Sounds reasonable.


-- 
Thank you,
Dmitri Pal

Sr. Engineering Manager for IdM portfolio
Red Hat Inc.


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