On 04/29/2015 12:59 PM, Martin Kosek wrote:
> On 04/29/2015 12:50 PM, Martin Basti wrote:
>> On 29/04/15 12:39, Martin Kosek wrote:
>>> On 04/29/2015 12:15 PM, Martin Basti wrote:
>>>> On 29/04/15 08:52, Jan Cholasta wrote:
>>>>> Dne 29.4.2015 v 08:45 Martin Kosek napsal(a):
>>>>>> On 04/29/2015 07:34 AM, Jan Cholasta wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>>>> The command line tool class should be named "ServerUpgrade" rather than
>>>>>>> "IPAServerUpgrade" for consistency with others.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The deprecated --debug option should not be used in new commands.
>>>>>> Why is --debug option deprecated? I thought we wanted to deprecate 
>>>>>> --verbose
>>>>>> option as --debug is used in most our CLI tools. Well, except
>>>>>> ipa-ldap-updated
>>>>>> which for some reasons marks --debug as deprecated. It does not matter 
>>>>>> now,
>>>>>> given the command is removed/changed.
>>>>> AdminTool provides --debug as a deprecated alias for --verbose when a
>>>>> subclass requests it. It seems the decision to deprecate --debug was 
>>>>> already
>>>>> made back when AdminTool was introduced, so let's trust that decision.
>>>>>
>>>> Yes that is reason.
>>> No, it's not.
>>>
>>> I will update design as well
>>>
>>> Nope. This decision was never made this way, AFAIR. --debug is what all the
>>> main tools (ipa-server-install, ipa-replica-install, ipa-client-install) use
>>> and we never agreed that we want to change it.
>>>
>>> In fact, I think I remember some discussion from Devconf.cz time, when we
>>> mentioned that the ipa-ldap-updater has it the deprecated status wrong way,
>>> that we want --debug. CCing Simo since he may have been in the conversation.
>> http://freeipa.org/page/V3/Logging_and_output
>>
>> "In commands that currently have it, the `-d, --debug` option will become a
>> deprecated alias for --verbose."
> 
> I see, I must somehow missed that aspect of the miniframework. Well, question
> is - is it really a good decision and thing we should do?
> 
> I.e. slowly moving towards --verbose option, deprecating --debug, given we use
> --debug in most commands and people are using it? This could cause lot of
> unnecessary churn in stable distributions that would wish to rebase to 
> FreeIPA,
> like CentOS or RHEL - and for what reason?
> 
> I will be against removing --debug option from the main commands unless there
> is a very good reason and justification to do so.
> 
> Martin

I talked to Martin in person. If --debug option is not removed and is kept in
the old commands and you really want to go with the --verbose option crusade, I
can live with it.

Martin

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