On 14.7.2015 16:29, Jan Cholasta wrote:
> Dne 14.7.2015 v 14:33 Petr Spacek napsal(a):
>> On 2.7.2015 09:56, Petr Spacek wrote:
>>> On 2.7.2015 09:36, Alexander Bokovoy wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 02 Jul 2015, Jan Cholasta wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Can this be done without adding server-core?
>>>>>>>> I'm not aware of such method (except of adding all DNS dependencies as
>>>>>>>> Requires straight into freeipa-server package).
>>>>>>>>> Because it's not server core,
>>>>>>>>> it's the whole thing! Or maybe just rename it to server-common?
>>>>>>>> I'm fine with 'common'. Ticket 4058 calls for sub-package for CA too
>>>>>>>> so my
>>>>>>>> idea was to create 'core' package which will be gradually reduced
>>>>>>>> more and more.
>>>>>>> Well, I don't like the fact that in order to install IPA server
>>>>>>> without DNS you have to install freeipa-server-core instead of just
>>>>>>> freeipa-server. Fedora packaging guidelines [1] state that the
>>>>>>> metapackage should be named freeipa-server-compat, so I guess renaming
>>>>>>> freeipa-server to freeipa-server-compat and freeipa-server-core to
>>>>>>> freeipa-server is good enough.
>>>>>> I think you are misunderstanding what the guidelines say. -compat
>>>>>> subpackage is something that only contains Requires: and Obsoletes:, to
>>>>>> help to pull the right packages. It is not supposed to be a
>>>>>> full-featured package with content.
>>>>> With Petr's patch, freeipa-server is exactly that - a metapackage with
>>>>> requires and obsoletes only - hence my suggestion to rename it according 
>>>>> to
>>>>> the guidelines.
>>>> That's not good.
>>>>>> I think we are good enough with freeipa-server-dns. We have the same
>>>>>> situation with freeipa-server-trust-ad -- it is not required by the main
>>>>>> package and pulls in Samba-related bits. We also don't have any -compat
>>>>>> or metapackage for it.
>>>>> freeipa-server-dns is fine, what is IMO not fine is that it *is* required 
>>>>> by
>>>>> the main freeipa-server package, *unlike* freeipa-server-trust-ad.
>>>>> We don't have a compat metapackage for freeipa-server-trust-ad, because
>>>>> there are no upgrade issues with it, which is what Petr is trying to solve
>>>>> with his patch.
>>>> So, the issue is that for installed bind+bind-dyndb-ldap combination we
>>>> need to switch to bind-pkcs11+bind-dyndb-ldap. Maybe instead of
>>>> modifying main freeipa package we could modify bind-dyndb-ldap package
>>>> to require bind-pkcs11 and corresponding bits of freeipa packages?
>>> Unfortunately, no.
>>> - bind-dyndb-ldap itself is used & supported even without FreeIPA.
>>> - bind-pkcs11 depends on properly configured SoftHSM (or other PKCS#11
>>> provider)
>>> => upgrade could break non-FreeIPA installations.
>>> I'm attempting to rework the patch now, stay tuned.
>> Apparently this thread was abandoned during my PTO so I'm sending new patch
>> here. It includes the -compat package and works with YUM and DNF.
> I don't like that freeipa-server got renamed to freeipa-server-core, but I
> won't push against it if Alexander and others (CCing Simo) are OK with it.

For the record, I was not able to make it work without the rename.

Petr^2 Spacek

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