On 24.2.2016 16:30, Sumit Bose wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 04:08:14PM +0100, David Kupka wrote:
>> On 24/02/16 15:55, Sumit Bose wrote:
>>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 03:30:40PM +0100, Martin Babinsky wrote:
>>>> On 02/24/2016 03:20 PM, Sumit Bose wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 01:31:55PM +0100, Petr Vobornik wrote:
>>>>>> On 02/16/2016 02:23 PM, Martin Babinsky wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi list,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WARNING: huge brain dump ahead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> During investigation of https://fedorahosted.org/freeipa/ticket/4305 me
>>>>>>> and Petr Spaced (CC'ed) came to a conclusion that the IPA realm
>>>>>>> autodiscovery code used by ipa-client-install is so convoluted, complex
>>>>>>> and hard to understand that the cost of fixing a bug/adding a behavioral
>>>>>>> change (there are some other tickets dealing with ipadiscovery, e.g. see
>>>>>>> https://fedorahosted.org/freeipa/ticket/5270
>>>>>>> https://fedorahosted.org/freeipa/ticket/3912 ) can potentially be higher
>>>>>>> that a more large-scale rewrite of the module and related codebase.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since we plan to do some general refactoring work anyway, I would like
>>>>>>> to discuss the possible course of action we may take to tackle this
>>>>>>> issue. I would like to present the following options we have been
>>>>>>> discussing so far:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1.) Do a substantial rewrite of existing code 
>>>>>>> ("ipaclient/ipadiscovery.py")
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We may take the existing IPADiscovery class and try rewrite it in order
>>>>>>> to get a more concise and deterministic code, which will:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * rely more on python-dns and answers provided by resolver (e.g. we are
>>>>>>> directly parsing resolv.conf for available domains when we can ask the
>>>>>>> resolver to get domains for us)
>>>>>>> * be more pythonic (replace error codes with thrown exceptions, clean up
>>>>>>> numerous C-isms etc.)
>>>>>>> * not try to outsmart user when server/realm/domain is specified
>>>>>>> beforehand. Currently, even if you specify all three options, there is
>>>>>>> still some DNS discovery performed, hence bug #4305. I think that one
>>>>>>> you specify server(s), not magic should be performed and the discovery
>>>>>>> process should be reduced to checking whether they are IPA servers and
>>>>>>> pull all other info (like realm) from them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This may be a considerable effort requiring some time to implement and
>>>>>>> get right, but IMHO still comparable to the time spent iteratively
>>>>>>> placing 'if' statements into the existing code and hoping to not break
>>>>>>> anything. I would even argue it is not worth the effort because we can
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2.) Use realmd dbus interface to do DNS discovery
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have attached aquick and dirty script I have slapped together to
>>>>>>> leverage 'org.freedesktop.realmd.Discover' interface to do IPA realm
>>>>>>> discovery for us. This has a lot of appeal to me since we are leveraging
>>>>>>> existing codebase for DNS discovery and will have to handle only cases
>>>>>>> when the user manually specifies a list of IPA servers for the client.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This however pulls in realmd as a (potentially circular) dependency for
>>>>>>> ipa client, and when we find bug in the discovery code, we will have to
>>>>>>> poke upstream (Stef or Sumit I think) to fix it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So from the long-term point of view, Jan Cholasta's (CC'ed) suggestion 
>>>>>>> to:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3.) Split out IPA discovery portion of realmd to a separate C library
>>>>>>> shared between IPA and realmd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> may be best. Both projects will have shared codebase (maintained either
>>>>>>> by us or realmd devs), which can be reused also by other people to
>>>>>>> create their own discovery/enrollment solution. This would however
>>>>>>> require sustained and concerted efforts of both teams to create the
>>>>>>> library and possibly rewrite realmd to accommodate this change.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There may be some other options viable for us, if so please mention them
>>>>>>> in a reply. Also please correct any piece of information I got wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TL;DR: IPA realm/domain discovery is a mess, please suggest a way to fix
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #3 sounds good from long term perspective.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In short term, i.e., #4305, we should skip discovery when --on-master is
>>>>>> used.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would prefer #2. Because as seen from the patch it is already working
>>>>> and can easily be used from python. I think this was also one of the
>>>>> reasons why Stef used a DBus service for this instead of a C library
>>>>> which then needs various bindings for python, Java, ruby, Go you name
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This approach is also my favorite. However, my (and several of my
>>>> colleagues) concern is that
>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1271551 will break it in
>>>> kickstart environment. I don't know how much of an issue is this, I guess 
>>>> it
>>>> completely precludes automatic enrollment during machine provisioning.
>>>
>>> realmd has the --dbus-peer option. So I guess it might be possible that
>>> realmd can be started by ipa-client-install directly in this case and
>>> allow communication over a socket pair. I'm not sure how hard or easy
>>> this would be in python.
>>>
>>> Stef, do you have some pointers how to use dbus-peer from python?
>>>
>>> bye,
>>> Sumit
>>>
>>
>> We have already done something similar with certmonger. You can look into
>> ipapython/certmonger.py
> 
> Great, so it should be possible to use realmd in the same way in a
> kickstart environment.

Then I vote for #2 as it is easy enough.

If necessary, realmd can be a weak dependency so if it is not present
ipa-client-install will work as long as --option are explicitly specified.

-- 
Petr^2 Spacek

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