Thanks for all the feedbacks. I updated the design accordingly and with additional tests results (http://www.freeipa.org/page/V4/Performance_Improvements#Proposed_improvements) Several improvements can be done, in particular in DS plugins (memberof, retroCL), but for "easy" benefit provisioning will be done with memberof disabled followed by fixup.

It remains some aspects that are not clear to me:

 * For best performance, DS tuning and provisioning/fixup would
   preferably be done under 'directory manager'
   That means prompting DM password and writing it into temporary file.
   Is that a concern ?
 * Fixup requires that we know the filters matching the provisioned
   entries. For example :
     o (objectClass=inetorgperson)
     o (objectClass=ipausergroup)
     o (objectClass=ipahost)
     o (objectClass=ipahostgroup)
     o (objectClass=ipasudorule)
     o (objectClass=ipahbacrule)

       The set of objectclass could be hardcode or provided in the
       provisioning CLI option
       What to do if an entry in in the provision file does not match
       any of those filter ? Should it stop without starting the
       provisioning ?
 * The CLI doing the provisioning could be something like 'ipa
   provision <options>' or should it be a separated command e.g.
   ipa-bulk-load ?


On 05/13/2016 10:18 AM, Ludwig Krispenz wrote:

On 05/13/2016 09:42 AM, Petr Spacek wrote:
On 13.5.2016 09:26, Martin Kosek wrote:
On 05/12/2016 04:16 PM, Ludwig Krispenz wrote:
On 05/12/2016 03:45 PM, Ludwig Krispenz wrote:
On 05/12/2016 02:16 PM, Petr Vobornik wrote:
On 05/10/2016 05:50 PM, thierry bordaz wrote:
On 05/05/2016 03:44 PM, Petr Vobornik wrote:
On 05/04/2016 02:20 PM, thierry bordaz wrote:

       I have been doing some tests/measures using

       The tool creates a set of typical users/hosts/groups... to
import with a

       I wrote down some finding in

I still have to do some cleanup around the performance but the
basic of a
possible improvement is to do provisioning in several steps
plugins, provisioning, enabling plugin, running fixup tasks).

Before going further in the design I wanted to share those ideas
and know if
       it raise any concern.


Hi Thierry,

Thanks for the analysis. Very nice.

Knowing this will help us suggesting workarounds also for old releases.

Couple questions:

Have you tested retrCL disabled with memberOf enabled. It seems that it would eliminate 550K adds and 0.8M searches. What would be the time

Do you know what is the time when memberof is enabled but slapi-nis and
retroCL are disabled?
The culprit of the performance issue is very likely related to SRCH
(internal) triggered by memberof.

If retroCL is disabled and memberof enabled, #SRCH is 13.8M.
If retroCL is disabled, slapi-nis disabled and memberof enabled #SRCH is
When all of them are enabled the #SRCH is 15M.

You are right if retroCL is disabled the #ADD drops but it has no
significant effect on the duration.
ok, thanks for the analysis

Regarding the duration of the provisioning, values are not really stable as performance of VM fluctuates. But as soon as memberof is enabled the provisioning lasts > 4hours where the same provisioning lasts 6mins as
soon as memberof is disabled.

I need to confirm the average time for internal searches but assuming
1ms per SRCH it consumes >90% of the provisioning.

From the text it was not clear to me, if you find or investigate
possible improvements in memberof plugin which would improve the
performance without stopping and starting DS.
As was discussed at mtg, have you tried if the DS restart is really
memberof plugin can be enabled and disabled while the server is running, BUT to achieve this the "enable-dynamic-plugins" feature has to be turned on. And then any enable/disable of a plugin would try to do it dynamically an dnot
wait for the restart.
And I think not all plugins are able to handle this, TomasB was once working
on it for IPA plugins, but it was not completed as far as I know
but enabling dynamic plugins can be done without restart, so what can be done is.
- enable dynamic plugins
- disable memberof
- do some work
- enable memberof
- disable dynamic plugins
Please see
I do not think this will be that easy. We would first need to invest into updating FreeIPA plugins to work with dynamic plugins setting and then we could
do things alike above.

It looks like that for FreeIPA 4.4, we will need to live with DS restart unless
there is some workaround...
couldn't the scenario I outline above with enabling dynamic plugins only temporary work, are there any attempts to enable/disable plugins during provisioning ? If that would be the case that would also require a restart
One more thing:

How does it affect topologies with replicas?

I might be wrong, but if memberOf is always computed locally then we have to
disable it on *all* replicas.

If we disabled it only on one replica and not others, the chosen replica would be way faster than rest of the topology and I'm not sure what would happen
later on.
good point. we exclude memberof from replication as it is regenerated on every server, so each replica would suffer from the performance problem

Thierry, Ludwig, can you comment on this?

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