hi everyone

I'm trying a client, when I do:

$ ipa-client-install --no-ntp --force-join
Discovery was successful!
...
Also note that following ports are necessary for ipa-client working properly after enrollment:
     TCP: 464
     UDP: 464, 123 (if NTP enabled)
Failed to obtain host TGT: Major (851968): Unspecified GSS failure. Minor code may provide more information, Minor (2529638936): Preauthentication failed
Installation failed. Rolling back changes.
-- end

At server's end(one single server in domain):
..
Jan 06 15:00:42 swir.priv.xx.xx.priv.xx.xx.x krb5kdc[1560685](info): closing down fd 11 Jan 06 15:00:42 swir.priv.xx.xx.priv.xx.xx.x krb5kdc[1560686](info): AS_REQ (8 etypes {18 17 20 19 16 23 25 26}) 10.5.6.17: NEEDED_PREAUTH: host/dzien.priv.xx.xx.priv.xx.x...@private.xx.xx.private.xx.xx.x for krbtgt/private.xx.xx.private.xx.x...@private.xx.xx.private.xx.xx.x, Additional pre-authentication required Jan 06 15:00:42 swir.priv.xx.xx.priv.xx.xx.x krb5kdc[1560686](info): closing down fd 11 Jan 06 15:00:42 swir.priv.xx.xx.priv.xx.xx.x krb5kdc[1560686](info): preauth (encrypted_timestamp) verify failure: Preauthentication failed Jan 06 15:00:42 swir.priv.xx.xx.priv.xx.xx.x krb5kdc[1560686](info): AS_REQ (8 etypes {18 17 20 19 16 23 25 26}) 10.5.6.17: PREAUTH_FAILED: host/dzien.priv.xx.xx.priv.xx.x...@private.xx.xx.private.xx.xx.x for krbtgt/private.xx.xx.private.xx.x...@private.xx.xx.private.xx.xx.x, Preauthentication failed Jan 06 15:00:42 swir.priv.xx.xx.priv.xx.xx.x krb5kdc[1560686](info): closing down fd 11 Jan 06 15:02:23 swir.priv.xx.xx.priv.xx.xx.x krb5kdc[1560681](info): AS_REQ (8 etypes {18 17 20 19 16 23 25 26}) 10.5.6.17: NEEDED_PREAUTH: ad...@private.xx.xx.private.xx.xx.x for krbtgt/private.xx.xx.private.xx.x...@private.xx.xx.private.xx.xx.x, Additional pre-authentication required Jan 06 15:02:23 swir.priv.xx.xx.priv.xx.xx.x krb5kdc[1560681](info): closing down fd 11 Jan 06 15:02:23 swir.priv.xx.xx.priv.xx.xx.x krb5kdc[1560686](info): AS_REQ (8 etypes {18 17 20 19 16 23 25 26}) 10.5.6.17: ISSUE: authtime 1515250943, etypes {rep=18 tkt=18 ses=18}, ad...@private.xx.xx.private.xx.xx.x for krbtgt/private.xx.xx.private.xx.x...@private.xx.xx.private.xx.xx.x Jan 06 15:02:23 swir.priv.xx.xx.priv.xx.xx.x krb5kdc[1560686](info): closing down fd 11 Jan 06 15:02:23 swir.priv.xx.xx.priv.xx.xx.x krb5kdc[1560686](info): TGS_REQ (8 etypes {18 17 20 19 16 23 25 26}) 10.5.6.17: ISSUE: authtime 1515250943, etypes {rep=18 tkt=18 ses=18}, ad...@private.xx.xx.private.xx.xx.x for ldap/swir.priv.xx.xx.priv.xx.x...@private.xx.xx.private.xx.xx.x Jan 06 15:02:23 swir.priv.xx.xx.priv.xx.xx.x krb5kdc[1560686](info): closing down fd 11 Jan 06 15:02:23 swir.priv.xx.xx.priv.xx.xx.x krb5kdc[1560686](info): TGS_REQ (8 etypes {18 17 20 19 16 23 25 26}) 10.5.6.17: ISSUE: authtime 1515250943, etypes {rep=18 tkt=18 ses=18}, ad...@private.xx.xx.private.xx.xx.x for HTTP/swir.priv.xx.xx.priv.xx.x...@private.xx.xx.private.xx.xx.x
-- end

But after many tries(randomly) suddenly it would succeed. Client said to use  --force-join.
VERSION: 4.5.0, API_VERSION: 2.228

What can a problem?

regards, L.
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