On 10/03/2014 01:30 PM, Licause, Al (CSC AMS BCS - UNIX/Linux Network Support) wrote:
I am not a specialist but can it be that when you run just named it uses files 
and when you start IPA it uses LDAP database and the issue that the forwarders 
are correctly recorded in files (manually?) but not in the LDAP database?

  This certainly makes sense.....but then having entered the forwarders using 
ipa dnsconfig-mod --forwarders=......
   didn't seem to make a difference.      I assume the ipa dnsconfig-mod 
command places those forwarders
   in the ldap database ?
  But having done so, does anything have to be restarted to get this to work or 
is the effect immediate  ?


I am not sure, I think you might need to restart named when you add forwarders. I vaguely remember a ticket about it. But it seems that there might be something going on with the configuration of named.
Did you touch anything manually in named.conf?

Again trying to help but not a specialist by any means. :-)



Al


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Subject: Re: [Freeipa-users] FW: named and IpA

On 10/03/2014 11:13 AM, Licause, Al (CSC AMS BCS - UNIX/Linux Network
Support) wrote:
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Subject: Re: [Freeipa-users] named and IpA

On 2.10.2014 19:05, Licause, Al (CSC AMS BCS - UNIX/Linux Network Support) 
wrote:
We have IdM running on a RHEL V7 system and have configured a local
DNS server in our test lab.

We have loaded the various SRV and TXT records needed by the IdM server.


PROBLEM:

>From the IdM server we can only lookup local records.  The name
resolver will not
attempt to look to another other name servers or domains defined in
/etc/resolv.conf

If I shutdown IdM using ipactl stop and then restart named, the name
resolver works for local and remote hosts, addresses and domains as
well as serving up the SRV records defined on the local host.

Am I correct in assuming that while IdM is up and running, the only
other systems it will communicate with at least with regard to name
services is another host also running IdM defined either as a server or a 
client ?

If this is case, is there anyone to better integrate some of these
common services such as named into an existing network such that you are not 
limited by the IdM components ?
I would like to get additional information about your environment:
- Is the IPA server is installed with DNS or not? Did you use option 
--setup-dns during ipa-server-install?

    I have tried it both ways, but the most current in which we see this 
behavior I ran ipa-server-install with
    no arguments and said yes to the question about installing DNS.     I then 
replied with two valid forwarders.
    In a previous installation,  we added two of our local zones from one of 
the other dns server
    and then added the sample zone provided by the installation which contained 
the various SRV and TXT
    records.       But for current reporting of this problem, we did not 
add/load the other zone files.
- Which DNS zones do you have defined on IPA server? You can use command "ipa 
dnszone-find" to list all zones.

[root@linux named]# ipa dnsconfig-mod
--forwarder=16.112.240.27;16.112.240.40
ipa: ERROR: no modifications to be performed
bash: 16.112.240.40: command not found...
[root@linux named]# ipa dnszone-find
    Zone name: 240.112.16.in-addr.arpa.
    Authoritative nameserver: linux.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.
    Administrator e-mail address: hostmaster.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.
    SOA serial: 1412344406
    SOA refresh: 3600
    SOA retry: 900
    SOA expire: 1209600
    SOA minimum: 3600
    Active zone: TRUE
    Allow query: any;
    Allow transfer: none;

    Zone name: osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net
    Authoritative nameserver: linux.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.
    Administrator e-mail address: hostmaster.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.
    SOA serial: 1412344406
    SOA refresh: 3600
    SOA retry: 900
    SOA expire: 1209600
    SOA minimum: 3600
    Active zone: TRUE
    Allow query: any;
    Allow transfer: none;
----------------------------
Number of entries returned 2
----------------------------

- Is there any other DNS servers serving same DNS zones?

   Yes....we left the other two existing DNS servers in place as they are our 
primary name servers for this lab segment.
   Those are the two systems we have entered as forwarders.
- Did you configure forwarders in /etc/named.conf or via ipa command line tools 
(ipa dnsconfig-mod or --forwarder option during ipa-server-install)?

   The forwarders were placed in the /etc/named.conf file by the 
ipa-server-install script or one of its subordinate scripts
   I  did try entering the forward policy and forwarders using ipa 
dnsconfig-mod but they didn't seem to change the behavior.
    One thing I did notice was that ipa dnsconfig-mod  --forwarder=      only 
allowed one forwarder to be entered.....adding
    a second entry on the line resulted in an error.    If entered with a 
second --forwarders command, the previous forwarder
    was replaced by the new one.      So if there is a particular syntax that 
would allow more than one entry, can you please
    post same ?
- Please attach result of DNS lookups using "dig" command: One output when it doesn't work (i.e. 
with IPA running) and the other when it works as you expect (i.e. after "ipactl stop" and 
"service named restart").

with ipa running:
[root@linux named]# nslookup dl160a.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net
Server:         16.112.240.59
Address:        16.112.240.59#53

** server can't find dl160a.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net: NXDOMAIN

[root@linux named]# dig dl160a.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net

; <<>> DiG 9.9.4-RedHat-9.9.4-14.el7 <<>> dl160a.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net
;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 6571 ;; flags: qr
aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;dl160a.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.    IN      A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.    3600    IN      SOA     linux.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net. 
hostmaster.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net. 1412344406 3600 900 1209600 3600

;; Query time: 1 msec
;; SERVER: 16.112.240.59#53(16.112.240.59) ;; WHEN: Fri Oct 03
11:08:35 EDT 2014 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 108

[root@linux named]# ipactl stop
Stopping Directory Service
Stopping ipa-otpd Service
Stopping pki-tomcatd Service
Stopping httpd Service
Stopping ipa_memcached Service
Stopping named Service
Stopping kadmin Service
Stopping krb5kdc Service
ipa: INFO: The ipactl command was successful
[root@linux named]# systemctl start named [root@linux named]#
[root@linux named]# [root@linux named]# dig dl160a.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net

; <<>> DiG 9.9.4-RedHat-9.9.4-14.el7 <<>> dl160a.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net
;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 28446 ;; flags: qr
rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 4

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;dl160a.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.    IN      A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
dl160a.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net. 43200 IN    A       16.112.240.191

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.    43200   IN      NS      cluster.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.
osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.    43200   IN      NS      win2008.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.
osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.    43200   IN      NS      denali.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
win2008.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net. 43200 IN   A       16.112.240.55
cluster.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net. 43200 IN   A       16.112.240.27
denali.osn.cxo.cpqcorp.net. 43200 IN    A       16.112.240.40

;; Query time: 4 msec
;; SERVER: 16.112.240.59#53(16.112.240.59) ;; WHEN: Fri Oct 03
11:10:54 EDT 2014 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 184


Thank you.

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I am not a specialist but can it be that when you run just named it uses files 
and when you start IPA it uses LDAP database and the issue that the forwarders 
are correctly recorded in files (manually?) but not in the LDAP database?

--
Thank you,
Dmitri Pal

Sr. Engineering Manager IdM portfolio
Red Hat, Inc.

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Dmitri Pal

Sr. Engineering Manager IdM portfolio
Red Hat, Inc.

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