Il 07/02/2021 19:40, Al Chu ha scritto:
> Hi Fabio,
>
>> thanks for reply, I don't know if one or more freeipmi tools "really"
>> need root and I don't have time to check/test all them shortly
> Let me ask this question.  Do you intend to resolve the debian issue
> below by moving it to /usr/bin in the debian distribution?
I prefer an upstream change (if will be done) instead of a debian
specific, if a debian specific I would only do this after the release of
bullseye (next debian is near freeze) and after checking/tests (if and
when I'll have enough time) and after asking the opinion of at least one
expert debian developer, I'm only co-maintainer of some debian packages,
including freeipmi (it only recently)
>
>> it is better to ask someone else's opinion, especially someone more
>> experienced than me
> I will ask some power users at my company and ask their opinion.
>
> Al
>
> On Sun, 2021-02-07 at 18:43 +0100, Fabio Fantoni wrote:
>> Il 06/02/2021 18:56, Al Chu ha scritto:
>>> Hi Fabio,
>>>
>>> Actually thinking about this more, could this argument be made for
>>> all
>>> FreeIPMI tools that do out of band communication?  On my local
>>> redhat
>>> system, I notice they put ipmitool in /usr/bin.
>>>
>>> Just wanting to know your opinion on this.
>> thanks for reply, I don't know if one or more freeipmi tools "really"
>> need root and I don't have time to check/test all them shortly
>>
>> if none of them will need root  I think can be ok mv all to /usr/bin,
>> about symlinks for rename I think is a "must", for this "move only"
>> instead is needed to avoid issue only for cases where are used with
>> full
>> path "hardcoded" so the risk of problems is less but maybe the links
>> would be better to have them.
>>
>> it is better to ask someone else's opinion, especially someone more
>> experienced than me
>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>> On Sat, 2021-02-06 at 09:50 -0800, Al Chu wrote:
>>>> Hi Fabio,
>>>>
>>>> I think that's a good point.  And the same argument can maybe be
>>>> made
>>>> for `ipmipower` since it has no "in-band" component.  Both are in
>>>> /usr/sbin mostly b/c everything else there is.
>>>>
>>>> My one concern is that it's been in /usr/sbin for so long, I'm
>>>> not
>>>> sure
>>>> how many people may have hard coded "/usr/sbin/" into
>>>> scripts.  This
>>>> is
>>>> far likely with "ipmipower", but perhaps with "ipmiconsole" too.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps a backwards compatibility symlink would be needed?
>>>>
>>>> What would you imagine debian doing in this case?
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 2021-02-06 at 18:03 +0100, Fabio Fantoni wrote:
>>>>> Hi, as reported in debian: 
>>>>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=977949
>>>>>> The ipmi-console command can be executed by any normal user
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> require "system administrator" (aka "root") permission.,
>>>>>> IMHO, it
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> hence be installed to /usr/bin, and not to /usr/sbin., The
>>>>>> fact
>>>>>> that you
>>>>>> are accessing an IPMO SoL console of another machine, (of
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> may
>>>>>> be the system administrator) doesn't mean you have to be the
>>>>>> system
>>>>>> administrator of the client running ipmi-console.
>>>>> is there a reason why it should be kept in sbin instead bin?
>>>>> thanks for any reply and sorry for my bad english
>>>>>
>>

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