Yes, assuming a shape will give you much more power, at least for the 
individual subject.
doug



On 04/11/2013 02:55 AM, SHAHIN NASR wrote:
>
> Sorry that I keep on asking questions but I want to know if using a 
> model can significantly increase the chance of getting a significant 
> response.
>       As far as I see for the positive peak, when I use a model (e.g. 
> gamma model or spmhrf), I see a more significant response compared to 
> when I use the FIR model. Is it correct? If true, then the same might 
> be correct for the negative peak.
>
> P.S.: To be more clear, I am talking about the response maps relative 
> to the baseline.
>
> On Apr 10, 2013 6:46 PM, "Douglas N Greve" <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu 
> <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> wrote:
>
>
>     yes, that is what you want. The only other way that comes to mind
>     is to model each event type as two event types one delayed
>     relative to the other. Then model the responseto each as a gamma.
>     If the delay is right, then the first gamma should model the main
>     positive response and the second gamma will model the negative
>     response. both will be independent from the other.
>
>     doug
>
>     On 04/10/2013 05:00 PM, sha...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>     <mailto:sha...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
>         I think I figured it out but I want to double check. I am
>         generating
>         group-average map for my subjects using isxconcat-sess command
>         which
>         generates ces maps for each time frame. I think these maps are
>         what I
>         wanted. Right?
>             If you still have other solutions that you think may
>         generate more
>         reliable results, I am eager to know. For instance, is there
>         anyway to
>         fit a model as we do for spmhrf or fslhrf, but just for the
>         negative
>         peak?
>
>         Regards
>
>             That's the problem Doug. I have already generated the FIR
>             model but how
>             can
>             I show the sig MAP for one "particulat time point".  What
>             are the other
>             ways?
>
>
>             On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Douglas N Greve
>             <gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>             <mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>>wrote:
>
>                 Hi Shahin, there are several ways that you could do
>                 it. The one that
>                 immediately comes to mind is to use an FIR and then
>                 test for a
>                 difference
>                 at a particular post stimulus time point.
>                 doug
>
>
>
>
>                 On 04/10/2013 03:54 PM, SHAHIN NASR wrote:
>
>                     Hi,
>                           I want to generate a map to show the
>                     significant difference
>                     between
>                     HRF undershoot  (negative peak of activity)
>                     between two conditions
>                     independent from the positive peak. Is there
>                     anyway, to generate this
>                     map?
>
>                     P.S.: Please note that I need a map and not a time
>                     course graph.
>
>
>                     --
>                     Shahin Nasr
>
>                     PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience
>                     Martinos Imaging Center, MGH
>                     Harvard Medical School
>
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>
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>             Martinos Imaging Center, MGH
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>
>             PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience
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