it doesn't matter what you name them as long as you tell 
mris_make_surfaces. Store them in the subject's mri dir
On Fri, 10 May 2013, 
Jonathan Holt wrote:

> will convert individually, should they eventually be stored in the same 
> directory as the RMS'd mgz, with the same file name + invidivual numbers?
>
> after which I'd proceed with mris_make_surfaces?
>
>
> jon
> On May 10, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Jonathan Holt wrote:
>
>> I ran mri_convert on the RMS'd nifti, then recon-all on that. I don't 
>> understand how I can go from 1 RMS'd mgz back to 4 separate echos?
>>
>> jon
>> On May 10, 2013, at 12:41 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
>>
>>> did you run recon-all -all all the way through? you should name your echoes 
>>> something different like echo1.mgz, echo2.mgz... then specify -dura 
>>> echo%d.mgz 4
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 10 May 2013, Jonathan Holt wrote:
>>>
>>>> $ export SUBJECTS_DIR=/net/data4/ALSSCI/FreeSurfer201211/FreeSurfer $
>>>> mris_make_surfaces -dura 001%d.mgz 4 s_MEMPRAGE lh
>>>> it's entirely possible I'm specifying the wrong mgz? After running 
>>>> recon-all on the
>>>> RMS the usual directories were created, etc... including 001.mgz which is 
>>>> in
>>>> s_MEMPRAGE/mri/orig.
>>>> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Jonathan Holt <whats...@umich.edu> wrote:
>>>>     $ export SUBJECTS_DIR=/net/data4/ALSSCI/FreeSurfer201211/FreeSurfer$
>>>>     mris_make_surfaces -dura 001%d.mgz 4 s_MEMPRAGE lh
>>>> it's entirely possible I'm specifying the wrong mgz? After running 
>>>> recon-all on
>>>> the RMS the usual directories were created, etc... including 001.mgz which 
>>>> is
>>>> in s_MEMPRAGE/mri/orig.
>>>> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Bruce Fischl <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>     can you send details about the steps you carried out including full
>>>>     command lines?
>>>>     On Fri, 10 May 2013, Jonathan Holt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>           I've gotten as far as running the mris_make_surfaces on
>>>>           the RMS, but after running for a bit it stopped with
>>>>           this error
>>>>
>>>>           mghRead (file/path/s_MEMPRAGE/mri/0010.mgz -1): coult
>>>>           not open file
>>>>           mris_make_surfaces: could not read 0th echo for dura
>>>>           localization from file/path/s_MEMPRAGE/mri/0010.mgz
>>>>
>>>>           for reference, the RMS file name is 001.mgz
>>>>
>>>>           jon
>>>>           On May 9, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Douglas Greve wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                 the dcmunpack command is right. You should
>>>>                 make sure to analyze only the
>>>>                 RMS in recon-all (ie , that is the only
>>>>                 volume that goes into mri/orig
>>>>                 doug
>>>>
>>>>                 On 5/9/13 6:48 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
>>>>                       Hi Kayle
>>>>
>>>>                       you would run recon-all on the
>>>>                       RMS, then run the dura stuff
>>>>                       posthoc.
>>>>
>>>>                       cheers
>>>>                       Bruce
>>>>                       On Thu,
>>>>                       9 May 2013, Kayle Sawyer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                             Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>                             Can the MEMPRAGE be
>>>>                             specified in
>>>>                             recon-all with the
>>>>                             -i flag? We have
>>>>                             been using the
>>>>                             MEMPRAGE RMS scans
>>>>                             and discarding the
>>>>                             multiecho scans. If
>>>>                             we instead specify
>>>>                             the multiecho scans
>>>>                             for recon-all, do
>>>>                             we need to give any
>>>>                             additional
>>>>                             parameters (e.g.
>>>>                             the number of
>>>>                             echoes) for it to
>>>>                             utilize the 4
>>>>                             echoes to detect
>>>>                             dura and refine
>>>>                             pial surfaces in
>>>>                             mris_make_surfaces,
>>>>                             as described below?
>>>>                             Or would we have to
>>>>                             run recon-all with
>>>>                             the RMS, then after
>>>>                             it finishes re-run
>>>>                             mris_make_surfaces
>>>>                             manually with the
>>>>                             -dura flag to
>>>>                             refine the pial
>>>>                             surface?
>>>>
>>>>                             Also, I'd like to
>>>>                             make sure we are
>>>>                             using dcmunpack
>>>>                             properly. We take
>>>>                             the
>>>>
>>>>                       scan.info file and parse it
>>>>                       like this: "-run
>>>>                       [MEMPRAGE_4e_p2_1mm_iso run
>>>>                       number] 3danat mgz 001.mgz" so
>>>>                       the multi echo scan gets put
>>>>                       into one mgz
>>>>                       file, and the RMS gets put into
>>>>                       a separate mgz file.
>>>>                             Thanks,
>>>>                             -Kayle
>>>>
>>>>                             On May 9, 2013, at
>>>>                             12:00 PM,
>>>>                             freesurfer-requ...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>                             wrote:
>>>>                                   Message:
>>>>                                   35
>>>>                                   Date:
>>>>                                   Thu, 9
>>>>                                   May
>>>>                                   2013
>>>>                                   10:44:23
>>>>                                   -0400
>>>>                                   (EDT)
>>>>                                   From:
>>>>                                   Bruce
>>>>                                   Fischl
>>>>                                   <fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>                                   Subject:
>>>>                                   Re:
>>>>                                   [Freesurfer]
>>>>                                   Working
>>>>                                   with
>>>>                                   MEMPRAGE
>>>>                                   To:
>>>>                                   Jonathan
>>>>                                   Holt
>>>>                                   <whats...@umich.edu>
>>>>                                   Cc:
>>>>                                   freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>                                   Message-ID:
>>>>
>>>>                                   
>>>> <alpine.lrh.2.02.1305091043500.13...@gate.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>                                   Content-Type:
>>>>                                   TEXT/PLAIN;
>>>>                                   format=flowed;
>>>>                                   charset=US-ASCII
>>>>
>>>>                                   it
>>>>                                   needs
>>>>                                   to be:
>>>>
>>>>                                   mris_make_surfaces
>>>>                                   -dura
>>>>                                   memprage_echo%d.mgz
>>>>                                   4
>>>>                                   subjid
>>>>                                   lh
>>>>
>>>>                                   note
>>>>                                   the "4"
>>>>                                   which
>>>>                                   tells
>>>>                                   it how
>>>>                                   many
>>>>                                   echoes
>>>>                                   to read
>>>>
>>>>                                   On Thu,
>>>>                                   9 May
>>>>                                   2013,
>>>>                                   Jonathan
>>>>                                   Holt
>>>>                                   wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                                         I
>>>>                                         input:
>>>>
>>>>                                         mris_make_surfaces
>>>>                                         -dura
>>>>                                         memprage_echo%d.mgz
>>>>                                         subjid
>>>>                                         lh
>>>>
>>>>                                         it
>>>>                                         returns:
>>>>
>>>>                                         detecting
>>>>                                         dura
>>>>                                         using
>>>>                                         0
>>>>                                         echos
>>>>                                         from
>>>>                                         memprage_echo%d.mgz
>>>>
>>>>                                         Should
>>>>                                         I
>>>>                                         execute
>>>>                                         the
>>>>                                         command
>>>>                                         in
>>>>                                         the
>>>>                                         same
>>>>                                         directory
>>>>                                         as
>>>>                                         the
>>>>                                         mgz's?
>>>>                                         Should
>>>>                                         they
>>>>                                         be
>>>>                                         set
>>>>                                         up
>>>>                                         or
>>>>                                         placed
>>>>                                         in
>>>>                                         a
>>>>                                         specific
>>>>                                         directory?
>>>>                                         I
>>>>                                         also,
>>>>                                         as
>>>>                                         with
>>>>                                         recon-all,
>>>>                                         exported
>>>>                                         the
>>>>                                         proper
>>>>                                         subject
>>>>                                         directory
>>>>                                         beforehand.
>>>>
>>>>                                         On
>>>>                                         May
>>>>                                         9,
>>>>                                         2013,
>>>>                                         at
>>>>                                         10:37
>>>>                                         AM,
>>>>                                         Bruce
>>>>                                         Fischl
>>>>                                         wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                                               can
>>>>                                               you
>>>>                                               send
>>>>                                               me
>>>>                                               the
>>>>                                               full
>>>>                                               command
>>>>                                               line?
>>>>                                               It
>>>>                                               should
>>>>                                               say
>>>>                                               4
>>>>                                               echoes,
>>>>                                               not
>>>>                                               0
>>>>                                               On
>>>>                                               Thu,
>>>>                                               9
>>>>                                               May
>>>>                                               2013,
>>>>                                               Jonathan
>>>>                                               Holt
>>>>                                               wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                                                     Thanks
>>>>                                                     Bruce,
>>>>
>>>>                                                     should
>>>>                                                     the
>>>>                                                     hemisphere's
>>>>                                                     be
>>>>                                                     processed
>>>>                                                     separately,
>>>>                                                     or
>>>>                                                     how
>>>>                                                     do
>>>>                                                     I
>>>>                                                     signify
>>>>                                                     lh
>>>>                                                     and
>>>>                                                     rh
>>>>                                                     simultaneously?
>>>>
>>>>                                                     Also,
>>>>                                                     should
>>>>                                                     the
>>>>                                                     fact
>>>>                                                     that
>>>>                                                     after
>>>>                                                     running
>>>>                                                     mris_make_surfaces,
>>>>                                                     it
>>>>                                                     says
>>>>                                                     "detecting
>>>>                                                     dura
>>>>                                                     using
>>>>                                                     0
>>>>                                                     echos
>>>>                                                     from
>>>>                                                     memprage_echo%d.mgz"
>>>>                                                     be
>>>>                                                     worrisome?
>>>>                                                     I've
>>>>                                                     got
>>>>                                                     4
>>>>                                                     different
>>>>                                                     echos,
>>>>                                                     all
>>>>                                                     mgzs
>>>>                                                     in
>>>>                                                     the
>>>>                                                     directory.
>>>>                                                     I
>>>>                                                     have
>>>>                                                     a
>>>>                                                     feeling
>>>>                                                     I'm
>>>>                                                     doing
>>>>                                                     this
>>>>                                                     incorrectly.
>>>>
>>>>                                                     jon
>>>>                                                     On
>>>>                                                     May
>>>>                                                     9,
>>>>                                                     2013,
>>>>                                                     at
>>>>                                                     8:50
>>>>                                                     AM,
>>>>                                                     Bruce
>>>>                                                     Fischl
>>>>                                                     wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                                                           Hi
>>>>                                                           Jon
>>>>
>>>>                                                           yes,
>>>>                                                           the
>>>>                                                           subject
>>>>                                                           and
>>>>                                                           hemi
>>>>                                                           need
>>>>                                                           to
>>>>                                                           be
>>>>                                                           defined
>>>>                                                           (they
>>>>                                                           are
>>>>                                                           required
>>>>                                                           parameters)
>>>>                                                           Bruce
>>>>                                                           On
>>>>                                                           Wed,
>>>>                                                           8
>>>>                                                           May
>>>>                                                           2013,
>>>>                                                           Jonathan
>>>>                                                           Holt
>>>>                                                           wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                                                                 Hi
>>>>                                                                 all,
>>>>                                                                 combed
>>>>                                                                 through
>>>>                                                                 the
>>>>                                                                 mail
>>>>                                                                 archives
>>>>                                                                 to
>>>>                                                                 figure
>>>>                                                                 out
>>>>                                                                 how
>>>>                                                                 to
>>>>                                                                 work
>>>>                                                                 with
>>>>                                                                 multi
>>>>                                                                 echo
>>>>                                                                 mprage,
>>>>                                                                 found
>>>>                                                                 what
>>>>                                                                 I
>>>>                                                                 need
>>>>                                                                 but
>>>>                                                                 I
>>>>                                                                 wanted
>>>>                                                                 to
>>>>                                                                 confirm
>>>>                                                                 which
>>>>                                                                 of
>>>>                                                                 these
>>>>                                                                 two
>>>>                                                                 commands
>>>>                                                                 is
>>>>                                                                 the
>>>>                                                                 appropriate
>>>>                                                                 
>>>> mris_make_surfaces
>>>>                                                                 -dura
>>>>                                                                 
>>>> memprage_echo%d.mgz
>>>>                                                                 4
>>>>                                                                 subjid
>>>>                                                                 lh/rh
>>>>                                                                 
>>>> mris_make_surfaces
>>>>                                                                 -dura
>>>>                                                                 
>>>> memprage_echo%d.mgz
>>>>                                                                 do
>>>>                                                                 the
>>>>                                                                 subjid
>>>>                                                                 and
>>>>                                                                 hemispheres
>>>>                                                                 need
>>>>                                                                 to
>>>>                                                                 be
>>>>                                                                 specified
>>>>                                                                 as
>>>>                                                                 per
>>>>                                                                 the
>>>>                                                                 1st
>>>>                                                                 line?
>>>>                                                                 jon
>>>>
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