Hello Samuel,

Actually there are $3 32-bit microprocessors with floating point, and
many embedded processors (e.g. those used in android phones) no have
FPUs.  So I think the need for fixed point is diminishing, its only a
few thousand more transistors on a chip, Moores law etc.

A year ago I worked up an estimate for the labour reqd for a fixed point
port - it was about $80k.

Cheers,

David

On Sat, 2013-03-02 at 09:01 +0000, Samuel Hunt wrote:
> I can see turning Codec2 into Fixed point would have huge advantages for 
> opening up things like dsPIC devices, etc, and would be needed to take 
> Codec2 onto the next level.
> 
> I have huge hopes for Codec2, but without it being possible to compile 
> it into a dsPIC or similar, it is somewhat limited to either having a 
> very expensive processor (relative to cheaper ones anyway!) or consigned 
> to somewhere where there is a PC.
> 
> 
> What sort of money are we talking about, if the work is to be paid for?
> 
> It would be interesting to list out all the areas which require 
> development. I notice a few listed on the website, generally relating to 
> quality, etc, but if money would help to accelerate these, it would be 
> nice to look at.
> 
> 
> 
> Perhaps then we can find people to put the required money in to do 
> development in areas which most interest them?
> 
> 
> Only a thought.
> 
> Samuel Hunt
> 
> 
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> >     3. Re: codec2 float to fixed (Bruce Perens)
> >     4. Re: codec2 float to fixed (Andreas Weller)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 06:16:27 +1030
> > From: David Rowe <da...@rowetel.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Freetel-codec2] Codec2 on asterisk is latest version?
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> > Hi Roberto,
> >
> > Nope, just the source code.  I'd start by working towards getting two
> > asterisk boxes to talk Codec 2.  If you roll back your codec2-dev to the
> > SVN version for which the Asterisk patches were generated it might work.
> >
> > - David
> >
> > On Tue, 2013-02-26 at 02:07 -0300, Roberto Carballa wrote:
> >> Hi Bruce/David,
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks, for some reason I did not receive the digest.
> >> Im not very used to do this, is there any guideline somewhere
> >> on how to update the asterisk version?
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Roberto
> >> Bruce Perens Fri, 22 Feb 2013 16:35:36 -0800
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> In codec2-dev, not codec2. That could confuse people.
> >>
> >>       Thanks
> >> Bruce
> >>
> >> On 02/22/2013 04:33 PM, David Rowe wrote:
> >>> Hello Robert,
> >>>
> >>> The latest version is what's in Codec 2 SVN.
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 14:05:06 +0800
> > From: " ???? " <496623...@qq.com>
> > Subject: [Freetel-codec2] codec2 float to fixed
> > To: " freetel-codec2 " <freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net>
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> > i recently compiled codec2 for a S3C2440 board,which has no fpu,the 
> > encode/decode speed is very slow.
> >
> >
> > and i also planted speex on my board,
> > when compiled without --enable-fixed-point,the encode/decode speed is very 
> > slow;
> > but compiled with option --enable-fixed-point,the encode/decode speed is ok;
> >
> >
> > so i wonder if codec2 has an --enable-fixed-point option when compile ;
> > if codec2 doesn't has this option,what can i do ?  go deep in the source 
> > code and convert the float to fixed??  that's difficult
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> > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 22:15:32 -0800
> > From: Bruce Perens <br...@perens.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Freetel-codec2] codec2 float to fixed
> > To: freetel-codec2@lists.sourceforge.net
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> > Jean-Marc Valin created a set of macros that use float or fixed-point in 
> > Speex. We have not adapted Codec2 to use any form of fixed-point arithmetic 
> > yet. I think David would like to find someone to pay for the work.
> >
> > "????" <496623...@qq.com> wrote:
> >
> >> i recently compiled codec2 for a S3C2440 board,which has no fpu,the
> >> encode/decode speed is very slow.
> >>
> >>
> >> and i also planted speex on my board,
> >> when compiled without --enable-fixed-point,the encode/decode speed is
> >> very slow;
> >> but compiled with option --enable-fixed-point,the encode/decode speed
> >> is ok;
> >>
> >>
> >> so i wonder if codec2 has an --enable-fixed-point option when compile ;
> >> if codec2 doesn't has this option,what can i do ?  go deep in the
> >> source code and convert the float to fixed??  that's difficult
> >>
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