Hmm no direct experience with that chip, but a bit of experience to a few of similar type however....
so comments against the datasheet 70ps jitter is pretty poor for a radio receiver LO ! But that level of noise, might not matter depending on the spur level. There does not seem to be a bandwidth definition against that spec, so the actual result may vary widely. There is not even a graph for the noise / spur outputs Without measuring it, I would eliminate it all together just based on what is not in the datasheet All the things you care about are not in the datasheet, so there is probably not any decent performance to speak of. It is designed as a peripheral or CPU clock..... My guess is it would be terrible as a radio LO. try the ADF4351. it is OK, the best of the bad bunch. quite reliable to use/program. heaps of LO power if you transformer couple the push pull outputs. regards On 26/02/2015 11:37 AM, David Rowe wrote: > Thanks Glen :-) > > Yep, the NE602 has to go. I'm convinced IP3 is king, ahead of MDS. What > sort of mixer would you suggest? > > Any thoughts on the suitability of the Si5351? > > Cheers, > > David > > On 26/02/15 08:50, glen english wrote: >> My 5 cents >> >> I agree with Helmut's analysis. Additionally, with such a low IIP3, the >> radio will be absolutely riddled with intermods and essentially unusable >> in a city. >> >> NE602 is good for a cordless telephone, or a well protected 2nd IF mixer >> function. >> By modern standards they are a low performer. >> >> The radio is certainly fine in the lab as a demonstration aid. >> >> aim for an IIP3 of > -10dBm for a cheap radio. >> >> For this design, I'd suggest an IQ sampling because it can be done >> effectively by the STM32 ADCs. >> IQ sampling, will in general be a lower power consumption solution as it >> doesnt have high speed ADCs and high speed downsampling filtering (fpga) . >> >> There will need to be considerable gain between the ADC and the antenna. >> >> Say sample rate 256kHz, SNR 60dB, say full scale of 0dBm, Noise floor = >> -60 -54 = -114dBm (Hz)... a noise figure of around 60 dB.... >> Likely needs to be a double conversion receiver- >> >> so this would maybe be portioned as 12dB pre mixer gain, active mixer >> IIP maybe +6dBm, low noise post mixer , IF filter say easy available >> 21.4 filters, some more gain, and then use a CMOS switch SDR style IQ >> mixer with some more low noise opamps before feeding your STM32 ADCs. >> >> Keep the noise floor in the 1st half as low as possible, enabling you to >> really heap on the gain in the baseband opamps .... as heaping on the >> gain at the baseband wont risk a feedback/instability issue. >> >> of course, you could use a CMX994 and a couple of opamps and feed your >> STM32 dual ADC. >> I have some CMX994s on order. >> >> g >> >> >> On 25/02/2015 12:46 PM, David Rowe wrote >>> Hello, >>> >>> To support VHF FreeDV developments I've been working on a really simple >>> and very open SDR architecture for VHF radio: >>> >>> http://www.rowetel.com/blog/?p=3884 >>> >>> Glen and Matt - would appreciate you suggestions on appropriate input >>> BPF filtering and a VHF mixer. 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