David
for free DV etc
How are you dealing with differences in clock speed for TX to RX ?

Does the RX sample-rate-convert to its local domain, or does it follow 
the incoming sample clock (and hence adjust its own clock )

?

On 1/08/2015 12:54 PM, David Rowe wrote:
> Sounds like you have it about right Michael!
>
> On 01/08/15 11:36, Michael Carey wrote:
>> Hi David,
>>
>> I get virtually the same results with the microphone connector as I do
>> with the ACC connector.   Other things like TBW (transmit bandwidth) are
>> disabled with you enable the Data mode but I'm sure there is still
>> processing/DSP in the audio path... the IC-7100 is that kind of radio.
>>
>> It appears to be working pretty good, but I'm just not confident on the
>> output power.  The only thing that seems to be consistent and may be
>> what I follow... is the PA current indication.
>> It doesn't jump around all over the place and shows a nice steady 5-6A
>> which would be about right for 20-25W RF output.
>>
>> I've tried a different RX radio (TS-140S) just to see if that would make
>> a difference... but no.
>>
>> Michael.
>> VK5ZEA
>>
>> On 1/08/2015 8:19 AM, David Rowe wrote:
>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>> SNR sounds similar to what I get from my IC7200. I think yr close.
>>>
>>> Only issue with using the data connector is levels.  The SM1000 output
>>> is attenuated quite a lot down to typical mic levels (see SM1000 page
>>> for specs).  So maybe check the levels are compatible.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> On 01/08/15 08:09, Michael Carey wrote:
>>>> Thanks for the info David,
>>>>
>>>> I'm hoping to find others who are using the SM1000 and FreeDV with the
>>>> Icom IC-7100 radio and compare what we've done.
>>>>
>>>> I am flying a bit blind with setting the power levels.  I'm presuming
>>>> that both the radio power output meter and my external wattmeter don't
>>>> "like" the FDMDV modulation to give a true power output indication.  I
>>>> set the radio power output at 25% (once again presuming that 100% is
>>>> 100W!  :-) ), I increase drive so that ALC just indicates and I get
>>>> around 3-5 W showing on the power output meter... but it's not steady,
>>>> jumping around all over the place.
>>>>
>>>> I'm modulating via the ACC connector on the back of the transceiver, the
>>>> IC-7100 has Data mode which when selected allows you to take audio from
>>>> different places... in my case the ACC connector.  This also turns off
>>>> compression and other trickery that might mess with a data transmission.
>>>>
>>>> I'm using a Kenwood TS-50, SignaLink (non USB version) and a Cmedia
>>>> sound card in my shack PC to decode the IC-7100.
>>>>
>>>> I get 0 BER, SNR of 17, but the spectrum display looks a little lumpy.
>>>> I can fiddle with the output of the SM1000 over a fair range with very
>>>> little change in the displayed signal and received audio.  The scatter
>>>> diagram also doesn't look as nice as I've seen others.  The dots are
>>>> most certainly grouped together, but not as tight as I would have liked.
>>>>
>>>> I'm hoping to get more time in the shack this weekend to experiment a
>>>> bit more.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>>
>>>> Michael.
>>>> VK5ZEA
>>>>
>>>> On 26/07/2015 7:19 AM, David Rowe wrote:
>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>>
>>>>> FB on getting your SM1000 up on the air - lets have a QSO some time!
>>>>>
>>>>> Adjusting so your ALC just moves, and 20-25 watts average power for a
>>>>> 100W PEP rig is a useful rule of thumb for FreeDV 1600.  The classic
>>>>> "rookie mistake" is overdriving the SSB tx, which causes clipping and a
>>>>> poor bit error rate at the receiver.  Make sure any speech compression
>>>>> is off too.
>>>>>
>>>>> The best way to adjust your tx drive is monitor the SNR of the signal
>>>>> using a 2nd rx and the FreeDV GUI program.  For example when I tx with
>>>>> my IC7200, I have a FT817 nearby with no antenna and the RF gain wound
>>>>> down.  I feed the rx audio into my laptop and monitor the scatter
>>>>> diagram and SNR.  Incidentally, with my IC7200 I can't seem to get
>>>>> better than 20dB, perhaps due to it's sharp tx filtering.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a video that demonstrates this (and explains scatter plots):
>>>>>
>>>>>         http://www.rowetel.com/blog/?p=3109
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25/07/15 23:05, Michael Carey wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Everybody,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been building up a set of SM1000 cables for a few of my different
>>>>>> HF radios.  The main radio I use at home is an Icom IC-7100.
>>>>>> I understand you set the input level to the radio so the AGC indication
>>>>>> barely moves and make sure you don't stress the output stage too much...
>>>>>> I've settled on around 30W output.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I find that the AGC indication on my IC-7100 tends to jump around a
>>>>>> little when transmitting the FDMDV signal.
>>>>>> Can I use the test tone to set the transmit level and be confident that
>>>>>> this is OK for FDMDV?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael.
>>>>>> VK5ZEA
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