Dear Jeroen Vreeken,

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Уважаемый Jeroen Vreeken,
Моя почта работает в режиме автоответчика.
Меня не будет в офисе c 24 марта по 03 апреля; я отвечу на Ваше письмо как 
только смогу сделать это.
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Сергей Лебедев                          mailto:l...@supertel.ru
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Saturday, April 1, 2017, 4:02:30 AM, you wrote:

> I use a similar trick when I mix voice and data in FreeDV mode 2400B.
> But the detection is a bit simpler: Just look at the 'energy'     component 
> of the vocoder.
> If the energy of a frame is low and there is data to send the data 
> will be send and the receiver will inject a bit of silence.

> Regards,
> Jeroen


> On 04/01/2017 01:43 AM, Steve wrote:
>     
>   
> I was playing with the pairphone         modem, and it dawned on me
> that the software was using this         modem to send both vocoder
> data and control data. It did this         based on the boolean bit
> for VAD. Well, that's probably not         novel, but I asked
> myself, how the heck could they know when the         vocoder output was 
> speech or noise??

>     
> Well, it turns out that there is an algorithm just for that        
> purpose. It looks at each vocoder frame and a little history        
> and bada-boom youse gotta VAD bit.  

>     
> I was trying to figure out how they squeezed all the          
> encryption information and voice into 1200 bit/s, if the voice      
> itself was 1200 bit/s! Aha, they look for breaks in the voice        and send 
> control bits instead.

>     
> I suspect there are quite a few frames with no voice. If a         
> person was looking up something, they might not say anything        
> while they were otherwise tasked. This probably results in an       
> excess of control information. Dumb data just to fill the           void.

>     
> They almost need something like a duration detector, and          
> then send text data. A private SMS below the voice and           control.

>     
> Have a good weekend,  
> 73/steve  

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