Glen,

Thanks for the reply. That's what I meant - more energy/bit. 

What kind of gear do you use for 10 GHz? I've only got a couple of Gunn 
oscillators, and they're way to unstable for any sort of narrowband work. 


> On Jan 29, 2019, at 3:38 PM, glen english <g...@cortexrf.com.au> wrote:
> 
> IMO There's no need to conserve BW on the ham bands
> 
> IMO we should be reducing information rate, sure, which reduces energy 
> required to transmit
> 
> But while 4FSK is easy (2 bits per symbol) , if we used the whole 16kHz 
> channel and adopted something like FSK-64 (6 bits per symbol) , the symbol 
> rate would be 1/3 of 4FSK, leading to lower SNR requirements.
> 
> I'm playing with FSK-256 for 10 GHz EME codec-2....
> 
> 
> 
> On 30/01/2019 7:15 AM, Steve wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 12:54 PM David Tiller <dtil...@davidtiller.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> Wouldn't using FM eliminate the spectral efficiency of 4-FSK?
>> I was thinking about a PL-Tone and a nice wide signal. Obviously 4FSK
>> on the lower freqs would be better to use SSB.
>> 
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