Hi Behdad,

At the moment I am trying to use HarfBuzz (and FreeType) to deal with
these tables. The only reason for me to do so (at least at current
moment) is to render Arabic font correctlly.
you mentioned that if the primary use is to get Arabic rendering, I
can use FriBidi only to do so.
Does FriBidi2 needs advance typography tables (GPOS, GSUB, etc) as
input? I looked at the interface of fribidi, it seems to me that
freebidi output is independent from
 font files (ttf or otf) and  that the information regarding glyph
substitution, joining, etc is already defined in a built in lookup
table (please correct me if I am wrong).
If this is the case, if I want to render the arabic text using certain
font, is it true that for glyph positioning, i would still need to use
the information in GPOS table, thus requiring me to use
HarfBuzz and FreeType?

I am so sorry if my question is too basic, I have no prior knowledge
on Arabic typography. I am basically in need of enlightenment on when
to use fribidi,
harfbuzz and freetype and whether I should combine any of these in
this situation.

best regards

Maggy Anastasia Suryanto



Hi,


For OpenType complex shaping you need HarfBuzz [1]. Google engineers are
working on using it for the Chromium port on Linux [2]. Using Pango with the
FreeType backend is a simpler solution (Pango+FreeType uses HarfBuzz
internally).

If your primary use is to get Arabic rendering done, you can get away with
using FriBidi2 [3] only.

behdad


[1] http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/HarfBuzz
[2] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/harfbuzz/2009-March/000312.html
[3] http://fribidi.freedesktop.org/



On 04/09/2009 05:19 AM, Waqar Ahmad wrote:

Hi,


Is there anybody who has been working on font related stuff on mobile
devices? I am interested in getting Open Type Font (OTF) support on
symbian, windows mobile devices and most likely on Android in future
as well. As far as I know, Open Type Fonts (Arabic, Urdu etc.) are not
supported on Symbian and Windows Mobile devices. FreeType does not
support GSUB and GPOS.


I am thinking about porting an existing open source OTF solution to
mobile devices. A few possibilities that come in my mind are mentioned
below and suggestions from members of this list are solicited.


-Is there any good port of FreeType for Symbian and Windows Mobile
available in open source? If it is there, I can try to further extend
it to add required support for OTF.


-If somebody has experience of working with Pango and consider it good
for porting to mobile devices, this can be another option to explore.


-Google Adroid is using FreeType, however, I don't know if they have
added any support for OTF. One way could be to take FreeType from
Android (assuming it would have been optimized for constrained mobile
devices) and add support for OTF.


I would highly appreciate suggestions and guidelines from this list on
above matters.


Best Regards,
Waqar




However, I am not sure if Open Type Font are completely supported or
not in FreeType library.


Specifically, I am interested in Urdu and Arabic languages support
which require a number of rules for appropriate text rendering like
glyph positioning and substitution. I want to know if such features
are supported in FreeType library? If not, is there any other project
in your knowledge that is working on something similar to what I am
interested in?


I will highly appreciate your guidance in this regard.



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