possibly, but the last few people that care about non-antialiased fonts are probably on this email list.

I'm curious if they have motivation to make bad fonts with no hinting?  does it somehow help when/if anti-aliasing is turned on?

-craig

On 5/4/23 06:20, Paul Menzel wrote:
Dear Martin, dear Craig,


Am 04.05.23 um 15:05 schrieb Craig:
this was exactly my observation as well... remove fonts-liberation2. it's increasingly
difficult with containerization/snaps, etc.

r,
-craig

On 5/4/23 03:33, Martin van Es wrote:
On Thursday, May 4, 2023 9:52:43 AM CEST Werner LEMBERG wrote:
I think you misremember, for the reason mentioned above – just to be
sure I've checked now that this variation font has no B/W hinting
instructions.  Its hinting was certainly equally bad with an older
version of FreeType.
Ok, I solved the problem. There were many coincidences playing a role in the
original report.

For starters the (real) regression in fonts-ubuntu triggered my attention, but unlucky testing against Liberation Sans revealed a change in hinting between fonts-liberation and fonts-liberation2, which wasn't installed on my reference system. fonts-liberation2 lacks proper hinting (which showed on my 23.04 system) but fonts-liberation is properly hinted (on the 22.04 machine). Once
installed, fonts-liberation2 overrides all Liberation fonts, except for
Liberation Sans Narrow.

Removing fonts-liberation2 and downgrading fonts-ubuntu to fonts-
ubuntu_0.83-6ubuntu1_all.deb seems to solve all the reported problems.

My apologies for the noise and thanks for adding your thoughts to this!

Are the Ubuntu folks aware of this problem? If not, please create an issue in their (or Debian’s?) bug tracker [1].


Kind regards,

Paul


[1]: https://bugs.launchpad.net/


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