OK. I think some of this might be solved. 1. I'm out of my league here, but I wonder how Redhat, Mandrake et.al. pays *their* license fees since the stuff can be installed from thos installs (At least MPEG2). Anyone with more info on this?
2. Most probably one would have to disable burning. It is still legal to make personal copies of stuff you own,however isn't it? 3. I don't necessarily think so. Freevo (as a downloadable software product) should be free. But a modified, installed and tweaked box, which happens to have freevo installed could be sold under a composite name (For instance ' Freevo Rockhopper' :) Or something entirely different, but 'Powered by Freevo'. We could have different market propositions; Just an installed and essentially unconfigured system for the lazy tweaker, Games system with USB set up and tested with two (or more?) USB gamepads, Audio system with lots of Webradio and tons of free content (Classical music, for instance) pre-installed + good cables for 6+1 dolby and so on... The main software is free (As is Redhat - again my prime example) but install CD's are sold, and pre-installed system of diverse flavors are sold. And no, it won't undercut its own market, since the customers different in the respective cases. /Peter -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: Aubin Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Skickat: den 13 oktober 2003 23:30 Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ämne: Re: SV: [Freevo-devel] Internet update/plugin selection framework for Freevo ? There are a few problems that I considered when I was thinking of something like this. 1. Codec licensing is a big one. Some codecs, like MPEG4 require licensing for playback AND for recording. Also, MPEG2, AAC, etc. To release a "boxed" version of Freevo, you'd have to cripple those things or find a way to pay for them all. Of course, DVD playback requires a separate MPEG2 and DVD license. 2. Lack of controls. One of the things I like about Freevo is the lack of controls; but if you could get sued very easily by cable/TV companies if you allowed people to burn DRM-free copies of things. I'm not saying the lawsuits would have any merit, but it would hurt before you got started. 3. The "free" in freevo would be at risk because of the variety of laws, patents, and arbitrary restrictions on fair use. Aubin On 13-Oct-03, at 4:03 PM, Peter Svensson wrote: > I hope I'm not shooting myself in the foot here, but I am certain that > I'm > not the only person intent on actually selling boxes with freevo in > them. > > The remote update idea is great. I've already worked on that idea from > a > retailers perspective (Blocking stolen machines, et.c.). > > But riddle me this; > > Q: What's the difference between Redhat corp. and the loosely knitted > freevo > community? > > > A: Redhat knows it's company :-)= > > What I mean is that if one found a model (and I don't have one right > on the > top of my head - but that doesn't mean we can't find one) for > developing, > distributing and supporting freevo in a commercial manner, everybody > could > benefit. > > I'm thinking something along the lines of developers getting kickbacks > for > every _commercially sold_ system, support organizations (or > individuals) > sell support 'packages' (6 mo/1 yr) to the retailers (myself included > :) > which resell them to the customers who funds the whole shebang. > > I have absolutely no idea whether a) Anyone would want anything like > this, > b) If it is at all legal, Gnu-wise. ALl I know is that every hardware > company on earth is dropping something freevo-like on the market at the > moment and freevo kicks the butt of everything I've seen - with a few > features missing here and there (SAT-card reader stuff, for instance) > - but > oh, the configurability. > > Now, go ahead and call me names :) > > Respectfully, > Peter. > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Från: Robert Rozman > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skickat: 2003-10-13 21:36 > Ämne: [Freevo-devel] Internet update/plugin selection framework for > Freevo ? > > Hello, > > I've been thinking about some proper way/system to solve problem of > user > friendliness and remote updates/plugins selections through some easier > interfaces in Freevo. I'm speech recognition researcher and use CSLU > Speech > tookit. They have web update service, where user remotely update or > select/deselect current software modules. > > I'm sure that when Freevo is coming to more mature state where core > wouldn't > be so much in development and a lot of plugins will arise - we need > some > easy way of doing this. > > Any thoughts, ideas, code in this direction? Is twisted right framework > for > the job? Are there any other possibilities under Python ? > > Regards, > > Robert. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. > SourceForge.net hosts over 70,000 Open Source Projects. > See the people who have HELPED US provide better services: > Click here: http://sourceforge.net/supporters.php > _______________________________________________ > Freevo-devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-devel > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. > SourceForge.net hosts over 70,000 Open Source Projects. > See the people who have HELPED US provide better services: > Click here: http://sourceforge.net/supporters.php > _______________________________________________ > Freevo-devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freevo-devel ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. 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