On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 15:04 +0200, Hans Meine wrote:
> On Monday 17 October 2005 12:33, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > > On Sunday 16 October 2005 16:43, Karl Lattimer wrote:
> > > > I am going to overlay the logo a little, it will slightly encroach on
> > > > the menu, that way using a little less space. This requires a serious
> > > > look at the css, and also I must use a DX filter so I don't exclude
> > > > microsoft ie users.
> > >
> > > Why do you think you need such a hack?
> >
> > For PNG transparency. IE 6 handles this like a motorbike with a buckled
> > wheel
> I know.  However, you can fake transparency by pre-rendering the image over 
> the wanted background in your favorite image processing program.  I mean like 
> this:
> 
> http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/complexspiral/demo.html

Yes but you can't overlay that on top of another image and overlapping
another div without having a massive degree of piddling about with per
pixel distances for the alignment. Which is what I'm going to do.

It is much easier to use a CSS holly hack and direct X, why fake when
you can exploit the inefficiencies to your advantage! i.e. 

/* FYI IE gets confused about the start/end of a comment here */
/* HOLLY HACK DX FILTER /*/
filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(src='img/b_login.png',
 sizingMethod='scale'); /* Direct X processes our image through a proper RGBA 
filter. */
/* END OF HOLLY HACK */

;P so there!

> 
> > > Please, if you insist on fixed-width, make it fixed in terms of em's, not
> > > pixels.
> >
> > Relative to font size? I'll give it a try, but I recon it'll kill the
> > layout.
> 
> Not at all.  The point is - if you specify e.g. the menu width in pixels, you 
> ignore the fact that on high-res displays, the user may have chosen a font 
> which is much larger in terms of pixels.
> 
> > > > A variable width page wouldn't look as good,
> > >
> > > Try Ctrl-+ in Konqi or Firefox, that proves the opposite.
> >
> > I see the point, but how many people zoom font? Opera allows you to zoom
> > an entire page, which works much better than just zooming a font. This
> > as far as I can tell is the only reason you suggested em?
> 
> No, not really, its only the easiest way to demonstrate the problem.  It also 
> occurs for people with non-standard font sizes, e.g. for people with bad eyes 
> or very high/very low resolution monitors.
> 
> I always try to minimize the use of pixels as unit.  Mixing them both for 
> related stuff will of course make problems, but as long as you use em's for 
> most stuff, and pixels only for e.g. images or image-related stuff, you will 
> be perfectly fine, and make the above-mentioned users much more happy! ;-)
> 

I see your point. hopefully it won't be too difficult to approach this
fairly fresh. The header/footer templates are all really basic
classified html divs so I can probably simply make a few modifications
and get on with things.



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