Generally speaking, Zalman has the best "quiet PC" solutions.  They use
large radius fans (>80mm) with a low revolution speed coupled with a
copper/aluminum base.  

You can find their solutions at newegg and other fine retail stores.

Cheers,

dave 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Robinson
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 9:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Freevo-users] OT Fans for athlons

Matthew Bettencourt wrote:
> Actually, more important, what db is considered quiet enough??
> THanks
> Matt
> 
> Matthew Bettencourt wrote:
> 
>> I am looking for a quiet fan for my athlon 1200 freevo box.  I have 
>> the stock fan that came with my hp and it is quite loud.  ANy 
>> suggestoins.  I am not sure how long this system will be around so I 
>> may not wanna spend too much $$ on one THanks matt

That's a very good question. I've found this is very subjective. For
instance, I've tried a fan rated for 22dbA that sounded louder than a 28dbA
fan that happened to have a lower pitch. The higher the whine, the more you
hear it.

You need to look at sound and thermal engineering in a case holistically.
For instance, it MAY be possible to get 5dbA quieter fan for your video
card. But if you can replace it with one that doesn't use a fan, or put a
big but very slow biscuit fan pointing right at it, you can get things down
much more. 
Also, a noisy fan on the CPU is better than a noisy fan on the power supply,
since it has to go through more to get to your ears.

www.quietpc.com is a good source for quiet fans and other components, as
well as fanless cooling solutions. There are other resellers, like
www.directron.com, that also sell quietpc products and competitors. I don't
shill for either place - it's the product that matters, not the seller.

The best thing to do is start out by identifying the loudest component in
your system by unplugging one thing at a time until the loudest noise goes
away. In my current Freevo system this was actually the hard drive, not a
fan, and replacing that with a quiet Seagate really helped. I removed the
video card fan and replaced it with a much larger but slower and thus
quieter case fan pointed at the card from the side. Finally, I replaced the
power supply with a quieter version. You can still tell it's on, but it's
definitely not as annoying.

Regards,
Chad



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